[3.8] Tanky Aurabot - a combined Guide

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ZHescv escribió:
Any recommendations for jewels? I have 13 free slots for them, but I don't know what to use.

1x Watchers
at least 10x corrupted with -1% reservation, one of them a Conqueror's.
My friend gave me a 3Red-1Blue-2White victario's. What would be best gems in the chest? (Scion)
Editado por útlima vez por Whilthorin en 22 jul. 2019 6:50:25
Sooo... 3.8 changed some Guardian:

NSFW Guardian 3.8


I will therefor go Guardian again this League.
Im planning a little Variation on my Charakter from Synthesis-League, supporting an All-Lightning Summoner this League.
You can check him out in the original Post, or my charakter in Progress during League.

Not too much on the Skilltree,
Skitterbots and Stormblastmines are new for us.
Stormblastmines "3% Damage taken Debuff" does not scale with Auraeffect - this has been cleared up by the DEV's.


Ill do an Overhaul of my Guide ~1 week after release.
The Charakter Migration always fuck with the Item Links and I dont want to mess up prizes for my Items too much.

Have a great start!

btw.: I think we could level with a Zombie+Feeding Frency+Holy Relic 4L
With the changes coming in 3.8 is necro a possible viable alternative?
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Zalsaria escribió:
With the changes coming in 3.8 is necro a possible viable alternative?

I assume you mean Ascendant with Necro/Guardian.

Basically
Ascendant:
Grants ~50-60% Attack/Castspeed.
Self-Offerings got buffed, adding more ES and ES regen
---> Lvl 1 CwDT+Spirit Offering.

Guardian:
35% Attack/Castspeed and Movementspeed (including Onslaught).
20% more Damage
ES through Mana...


However Guardian now has too many good Options, so you will have to make hard choices what to ditch =).
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Karunga escribió:
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Zalsaria escribió:
With the changes coming in 3.8 is necro a possible viable alternative?

I assume you mean Ascendant with Necro/Guardian.

Basically
Ascendant:
Grants ~50-60% Attack/Castspeed.
Self-Offerings got buffed, adding more ES and ES regen
---> Lvl 1 CwDT+Spirit Offering.

Guardian:
35% Attack/Castspeed and Movementspeed (including Onslaught).
20% more Damage
ES through Mana...


However Guardian now has too many good Options, so you will have to make hard choices what to ditch =).


I'd assume he meant the actual Necromancer
Necro buffs up to 50 flat mana regen, 10% mana and ES regen(which works even with Skyforth), 3% attack and cast speed per Aura, 20% allres, 30% inc dmg, 10% more dmg and enemies deal 10% reduced if a corpse is nearby
all that combined with 40% Skill Duration and another 30% inc AOE and offering on yourself
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Dorlok92 escribió:

I'd assume he meant the actual Necromancer
Necro buffs up to 50 flat mana regen, 10% mana and ES regen(which works even with Skyforth), 3% attack and cast speed per Aura, 20% allres, 30% inc dmg, 10% more dmg and enemies deal 10% reduced if a corpse is nearby
all that combined with 40% Skill Duration and another 30% inc AOE and offering on yourself


OK, there are a few things to clear up:

1) Necro buffs up to 50 flat mana regen, 10% mana and ES regen.
- 50 flat mana regen: Yes
- 2% mana and ES regen for you and your Allies.

- the 8% are self only.

2) 40% Skill Duration and 30% AoE.
- self only. (the AoE affects your Minions, but not Allies)

But yes, If you care nothing for the physical reduction the Ascendant gets you could go pure Necro.
I thought they nerved the Aura-Haste on Necro too, but it was just the Ascendant's...

With Glutton + Spirit Offering you will have quite some ES regeneration going on and you can make a case for increased Duration on the Vaal Auras.

Interestingly:
Necro only gets 5% Aura Effect.
Guardian 10%.
Ascendant no Aura Effect, but has Onslaught now.
Champion 20%(!).
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Karunga escribió:
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Dorlok92 escribió:

I'd assume he meant the actual Necromancer
Necro buffs up to 50 flat mana regen, 10% mana and ES regen(which works even with Skyforth), 3% attack and cast speed per Aura, 20% allres, 30% inc dmg, 10% more dmg and enemies deal 10% reduced if a corpse is nearby
all that combined with 40% Skill Duration and another 30% inc AOE and offering on yourself


OK, there are a few things to clear up:

1) Necro buffs up to 50 flat mana regen, 10% mana and ES regen.
- 50 flat mana regen: Yes
- 2% mana and ES regen for you and your Allies.

- the 8% are self only.

2) 40% Skill Duration and 30% AoE.
- self only. (the AoE affects your Minions, but not Allies)

But yes, If you care nothing for the physical reduction the Ascendant gets you could go pure Necro.
I thought they nerved the Aura-Haste on Necro too, but it was just the Ascendant's...

With Glutton + Spirit Offering you will have quite some ES regeneration going on and you can make a case for increased Duration on the Vaal Auras.

Interestingly:
Necro only gets 5% Aura Effect.
Guardian 10%.
Ascendant no Aura Effect, but has Onslaught now.
Champion 20%(!).




I'm kinda torn between going CI Recharge-Based Templar with Max Auras and CI ES-Regen Necro with Max Auras(Recharge node cutting regen in half sounds like a bad idea).
Asuming the 10% more dmg for allies from Corpse nearby (Necro) doesnt stack i'd assume Guardian sounds a bit better as purely stacking Attack- + Castspeed?
Editado por útlima vez por Dorlok92 en 6 sept. 2019 7:36:16
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Karunga escribió:
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Zalsaria escribió:
With the changes coming in 3.8 is necro a possible viable alternative?

I assume you mean Ascendant with Necro/Guardian.

Basically
Ascendant:
Grants ~50-60% Attack/Castspeed.
Self-Offerings got buffed, adding more ES and ES regen
---> Lvl 1 CwDT+Spirit Offering.

Guardian:
35% Attack/Castspeed and Movementspeed (including Onslaught).
20% more Damage
ES through Mana...


However Guardian now has too many good Options, so you will have to make hard choices what to ditch =).


Yes sorry, was in bed last night looking at 3.8 aurabot builds while half asleep.

Basically were the changes to necro enough to sway away from guardian.
guys can someone give me necro support pob please,cant find any

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