[3.1][HC] rogueyoshi's Frostbreath Cyclone (All content on a budget, 500k-1m+ Shaper DPS, 10k+ EHP)

thank you for sharing :) should i use this as the starting build?

It's designed to be a league starter. The required item is dirt cheap and the build scales off of Frenzy Charges and Gem Levels to start with.

500k-1m+ Shaper DPS

Then how come your "geared" PoB only has 322k? Where's the other 680k+ supposed to come from?

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nyderic escribió:

500k-1m+ Shaper DPS

Then how come your "geared" PoB only has 322k? Where's the other 680k+ supposed to come from?

Note the placeholder "Insane" section. I have yet to upload it because it's not ready yet; mostly because I find the lack of defense in questionable. But the rest of the damage comes from expensive things like 4prop Jewels, Elemental Weakness corrupted Hrimsorrow, Taste of Hate, +1 Frenzy Pandemonius, 6L Bronn's Lithe, some gem swaps, and a moderate respec.

Or you could go just go crit and reach it in half the budget, but you lose most of the tankiness.

Would it not be better to just use hrimsorrow to get full cold damage? even without the ele weak on hit? Also why not pick up the leech nodes earlier?

Playing this build now. Pretty good so far but I felt really fragile leveling up and I still do at 64. Whatever I will play on. Also, I noticed that you got VP in your lvl 68 point tree. Is it normal to get VP that early in HC?

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generalchaos escribió:

Playing this build now. Pretty good so far but I felt really fragile leveling up and I still do at 64. Whatever I will play on. Also, I noticed that you got VP in your lvl 68 point tree. Is it normal to get VP that early in HC?

I noticed this as well and it confused me because at that point there's only .4% life leech which doesn't seem worth it for VP.

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ログよし escribió:

It's designed to be a league starter. The required item is dirt cheap and the build scales off of Frenzy Charges and Gem Levels to start with.

So you're idea is that it's going to be a league starter for 3.1? Yet the passive tree changes and ascendancy tree changes for 3.1 haven't even came out yet. You have created a build for a passive tree that will need changes as soon as 3.1 hits. While posting builds on the forums is great to help new players with ideas and such posting a build for a patch that has promised large scale changes to the passive trees and to acendancies no offense but is just a waste of time.

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KuraiArashi escribió:

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It's designed to be a league starter. The required item is dirt cheap and the build scales off of Frenzy Charges and Gem Levels to start with.

So you're idea is that it's going to be a league starter for 3.1? Yet the passive tree changes and ascendancy tree changes for 3.1 haven't even came out yet. You have created a build for a passive tree that will need changes as soon as 3.1 hits. While posting builds on the forums is great to help new players with ideas and such posting a build for a patch that has promised large scale changes to the passive trees and to acendancies no offense but is just a waste of time.

So the OP will just change it? If you read what the OP said. the OP never mentioned the tree. A league starter usually isn't dependent on a passive tree, but the items required to make the build work which is what the OP talked about. Yes, there is a chance that the build won't work in 3.1, but that can be said for literally every build in the game. Your argument is irrelevant.

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kulnan escribió:

Would it not be better to just use hrimsorrow to get full cold damage? even without the ele weak on hit? Also why not pick up the leech nodes earlier?

This is an HC build, so we value the Defenses of Gripped Gloves more than the 10% DPS increase of Hrimsorrow generally, but the Ele Weakness version is a whopping 20-25% increase. The normal version is good while leveling though.

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kulnan escribió:

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generalchaos escribió:

Playing this build now. Pretty good so far but I felt really fragile leveling up and I still do at 64. Whatever I will play on. Also, I noticed that you got VP in your lvl 68 point tree. Is it normal to get VP that early in HC?

I noticed this as well and it confused me because at that point there's only .4% life leech which doesn't seem worth it for VP.

Did you use Thief's Torment while leveling? Also, I probably forgot to grab the leech cluster, so I'll fix that soon. Anyways, with the leech cluster and the 150k DPS you will have with proper gear at that level, you will be fine.

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KuraiArashi escribió:

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It's designed to be a league starter. The required item is dirt cheap and the build scales off of Frenzy Charges and Gem Levels to start with.

So you're idea is that it's going to be a league starter for 3.1? Yet the passive tree changes and ascendancy tree changes for 3.1 haven't even came out yet. You have created a build for a passive tree that will need changes as soon as 3.1 hits. While posting builds on the forums is great to help new players with ideas and such posting a build for a patch that has promised large scale changes to the passive trees and to acendancies no offense but is just a waste of time.

The overall concept should be fine, since almost all the scaling comes from the Mace, Gems and Frenzy Charges. The tree itself is very malleable too, even allowing classes on the other side of the tree to be used (Inquisitor, Slayer and Berserker trees should be viable).