[3.8] For Scion - Bloody Explosive Cyclone With Disfavour + Haemophilia (Not a Vaal Pact Build)
After achieving 40/40 challenges and 126/126 atlas completion in SSF Harbinger league, I decided to test out a pure physical Cyclone setup as Scion using Disfavour + Haemophilia for bleed explosion and without relying on Vaal Pact. The map clearing speed is amazing. The higher the density, the faster it gets cleared. I was also able to do Hydra Guardian deathless with sub-optimal 5L setup on Belly chest (the correct gem setup of Cyclone should be in Disfavour but I have yet to 6L it). As such, even though my gears are not complete, I feel that the build is ready. " _____________________________________________________________________________
My Builds
Slayer
" Scion " Chieftain "
Screenshots
Shaper (3 Careless Mistake Deaths) T16 Hydra Guardian (Deathless) T16 Phoenix Guardian (2 deaths) T16 Minotaur Guardian (2 deaths) T16 Chimera Guardian (2 deaths)
Required Gears
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Shaper Kill Gears
The following are the gears I used to kill Shaper using this build. Dream Fragments ring is really good against Shaper because you are immune to his chill and you can just cyclone in his vortexes.
Recommended Gears
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Recommended Rares
Belt - Rustic or Vanguard Belt Preferred " Rings - Steel Rings Preferred " Boots - Titan Greaves Preferred "
Gems Setup
Gems Setup for Disfavour (5/6L) " Gems Setup for Chest (4/5/6L) " 4L Boots " 4L Helm " 4L Gloves "
Flasks Setup
If you are not using Death's Door boots, you will need: Lion's Roar gives huge damage boost and you can use it for Uber Lab and bosses that are immuned to knock back.
Jewels
Stats to look out for:
- Max life % - Physical damage % - Increased attack speed % - Increased melee damage % - Increased damage % - Increased bleeding damage % - % chance to bleed - Resistance (if you are missing) - Intelligence (if you are missing)
Pros & Cons
Pros - High leech from physical damage makes it possible to drop Vaal Pact - Because you don't run Vaal Pact, traps in Uber Lab becomes no concern (especially if you wear Death's Door boots) - The only unique flask that you will really need is Lion's Roar Cons - Physical reflect can 1 shot you if you are not using Sibyl's lament + Soul of Yugul - Can't do no leech map - Need int and dex on rings / amulet
Leveling Skill Trees
" Skill Tree - Level 25 Skill Tree - Level 50 Skill Tree - Level 75
Spoiler
" Skill Tree - Level 95
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Ascendancy
Berserker + Slayer
" Raider + Slayer " Note: Check FAQ for comparison.
Pantheon System
The powers provided by the major and minor gods are situation based. You can switch them in your hideout before engaging boss of certain map.
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Lab Enchantments
Helm
- 15% increased Cyclone Attack Speed - 40% increased Cyclone Damage - Ancestral Protector Totem grants 18% increased Attack Speed while Active - Blood Rage grants additional 12% increased Attack Speed Boots - 16% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Killed Recently - 0.6% of Damage Leeched as Life and Mana if you've Killed Recently - Regenerate 2% of Life and Mana per second if you were Hit Recently - 80% chance to Avoid being Stunned if you've Killed Recently
Bandits
Kill all for 2 passives.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Slayer vs Champion
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Change Logs
EDIT 1: Added Raider + Champion (or Slayer) variant into the build. Special thanks to @djnat for his contribution! EDIT 2: @djnat convinced me to pick Slayer over Champion with mentioning Soul of Arakaali. EDIT 3: Updated skill tree to patch 3.1 EDIT 4: Updated skill tree to patch 3.4 EDIT 5: Updated skill tree to patch 3.7 EDIT 6: Updated skill tree to patch 3.8 Editado por útlima vez por kira1414#3753 en 11 mar. 2020 2:06:32 Reflotado por última vez en 7 jun. 2019 8:39:50
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I like the build idea. There are only two things which I'd probably change if I had to play this one myself.
1. Ascendancy choice: I'd go for Slayer + Raider. This would allow me to have always full frenzy charges (even at bosses) and 10% movement speed plus Onslaught from the Raider, so the clearspeed would be even faster, and reflect protection + map stunning + the overleech mechanics from the Slayer. I would then go for path of the duelist and take the damage nodes to go for Master of the Arena instead of the Marauder starting ones. The fortify loss from the Champion would be compensated by linking it to Leap slam. 2. Crimson dance. Cyclone's bleeds are honestly very low in terms of damage even when using a beast like Disfavour. I would save those two points to get an extra frenzy charge instead. Cheers! Editado por útlima vez por djnat#4628 en 7 nov. 2017 11:53:18
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" Agreed on the Raider part for the permanent frenzy on boss fights. On Slayer vs Champion, the main advantage will be what you stated, reflect immunity and over leech. The main disadvantage will be keeping track of fortify using Leap Slam. Tough call there but I guess I will leave that to players adapting the build. I will update the skill tree accordingly based on your input later when I wake up. Feeling really sleepy now. Thanks again. :) EDIT: Based on POB, for general mapping, Champion + Berserker (or Slayer + Berserker) have better clear speed. On bosses like Shaper (without Minions), Raider + Slayer (or Raider + Champion) has the edge. Editado por útlima vez por kira1414#3753 en 7 nov. 2017 12:39:11
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When your damage is enough to delete map monsters, your clearspeed is a function of your movement speed. The onslaught on full charges provides 20% movement speed and the raider provides an additional 10%. 30% extra speed is huge while mapping. I have a cyclone slayer (full physical) who is level 98.5 and every single bit of movement speed you can get is amazing for map clearing. That's why I actually use Bronn's Lithe and Daresso's Salute.
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" Bronn and Daresso is definitely great with this build. Main drawback for Bronn will be getting off colors on it is a big pain and the lose in toughness. But in this case, since Cyclone will give more damage in Disfavour (instead of Bronn), it will not be of much concern. Bronn can be used for utility gem setup. Btw, I have include your input into the guide. :) |
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Another thing you can consider is the fact that if you go for the Slayer ascendancy you gain the overleech mechanics which are huge for this character. They allow to make full use of Arakaali's Pantheon which brings the max life leeched per second from 33% to 49.5% when it procs (and since you use Blood Rage + a CWDT IC setup, it will proc very easily).
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" I forgot about Arakaali. With that, you have convinced me that Slayer is better as the main Duelist choice. Guide is updated. :) |
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Shaper down with 2 careless mistake deaths + 1 glitched death (got 1 shot right after I enter his room).
The following are the gears I used to kill Shaper using this build. Dream Fragments ring is really good against Shaper because you are immune to his chill and you can just cyclone in his vortexes. |
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thinking of running this build for abyss HC as league start... torn between SLA/RAI and just pure slayer..
I feel SLA/RAI is better over all because we get over leech, and frenzy charges for boss.. but lose AOE from slayer, am i missing anything ? |
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