[3.3] MF Windripper Deadeye | TS and Barrage | PoB Link

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oliver2413 escribió:

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Lunarsz escribió:

Anyone mind checking out my build and telling me what I should be prioritizing next (Nowhere near the helm enchant price)
Build is mainly gonna be for MF mapping.

Get a dying sun flask
And also u don't need life and mana flask tbh

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Madzak escribió:

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sarahschneider escribió:

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acm242 escribió:

I don't get why people like deadeye. Raider is just as fast because you can have an extra movement speed flask because you don't have to worry about using an anti-freezing flask. And with all the frenzy charges giving you movement speed. I changed my character to deadeye and my movement was slower than on a raider.

Because you're not trying to go through map runs as fast as possible with MF gear or not trying to push the char to the limit when it comes to clearing. In which the most important thing are movement (speed and blink arrow recasts) and damage projection (or to put it simply, range). There's no chance a Raider can clear maps faster than Deadeye, no matter what you do. The ascendancy differences just won't allow that to happen.

Say with Raider you take Veil + Slaughter, with MF gear and 7 Frenzy charges, that's 30% increased movement speed, say you have 8, that's still 32%. Deadeye's Tailwind is 100% increased movement speed from that one ascendancy alone, this is not even mentioning Fast and Deadly's cooldown reduction for Blink Arrow. You can get Onslaught easily with Deadeye as well, with Silver or gem+HoI. And honestly, I don't even remember when the last time I was frozen when I'm mapping, grabbing Flask of Heat is also a non-issue. I don't even think I ever needed any more than one Quicksilver flask. No offense, but how do you run maps anyway? I almost never ran out of Quicksilver charges since you'd be killing stuff along the way and the effect's always up during mapping.

Now clearing wise, on Deadeye, Endless Munitions, Far Shot and Richochet are all specifically designed for hitting things as far as possible. Deadeye is inherently designed to clear things off screen. Which made a huge difference when you're trying to go through 50 stacks of Burial Chambers or Dunes or Strand or whatever all at once, as fast as humanly possible.

It's about min maxing, Deadeye is just too suited for Windripper MF, which is arguably one of the best MF map runner in the game atm. Raider is more of an all rounder, it has higher overall DPS, which is very noticeable when you're trying to do higher tier maps which zapping through maps like a madman just doesn't work anymore. Raider is also better for boss kills. But short version, why most MF ranger you'll see is Deadeye, because Tailwind & F&D is broken AF, it allows you to gain some pretty insane movement speed if you actually try pushing it as high as possible, and it allows you to get really high effective crit chance (which is necessary for a consistent IIQ bonus from WR) without relying on flat accuracy on gear which is harder on MF setup due to ventors on any other ascendancy.

How exactly does raider have more DPS? I take the PoB link from the guide, change to deadeye and use chin sol at close range, enable tailwind and 10 attacks (realistic). The DPS goes up 1 mill easily. With the PoB from the guide, I'm looking at 4mill dps with chin sol at close range just by using Deadeye.

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acm242 escribió:

I get frozen all the time by strongboxes. Dying sucks not only for lost time but for exp as well. You have to give up a slot to freeze on deadeye which means either giving up evasion flask or a movement speed flask.

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Axed escribió:

Also a cast when damage taken set up with immortal call and increased duration will help. Also Vinktar's when active you take 50 percent more damage so maybe drop that for lab.

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Carcelero escribió:

I die so easy, im level 84 but i think im missing something, would you change something from my build? My profile is open so you can check it

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Getting frozen by strongboxes is a really bad idea no matter what and you can't really blame the ascendancy for not using Blink Arrow to get away every time you open one. I use Quicksilver and Jade all the time when I'm running MF, not sure what you meant by giving up an anti-freeze slot since you can easily roll anti-freeze with either Diamond or Jade/Silver. You can even pick up Silver if you want on top of that for the Onslaught just fine with Deadeye. Elemental status immunity is overrated if not outright useless. The only dangerous one is Shock, and even then the only prominent Shock debuff that's worth mentioning are Eradicator's on a red map and Vinktar's.

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If you really like Raider that much then more power to you, but honestly, I literally can't think of any reason at all to pick Raider over Deadeye for Windripper MF. There's a reason why every Windripper MF player on my friendlist, guild, or heck, every streamer I've seen so far that has no some kind of Raider-fetish have either switched to Deadeye, or are playing Deadeye instead of Raider, every, single one.

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acm242 escribió:

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Getting frozen by strongboxes is a really bad idea no matter what and you can't really blame the ascendancy for not using Blink Arrow to get away every time you open one. I use Quicksilver and Jade all the time when I'm running MF, not sure what you meant by giving up an anti-freeze slot since you can easily roll anti-freeze with either Diamond or Jade/Silver. You can even pick up Silver if you want on top of that for the Onslaught just fine with Deadeye. Elemental status immunity is overrated if not outright useless. The only dangerous one is Shock, and even then the only prominent Shock debuff that's worth mentioning are Eradicator's on a red map and Vinktar's.

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If you really like Raider that much then more power to you, but honestly, I literally can't think of any reason at all to pick Raider over Deadeye for Windripper MF. There's a reason why every Windripper MF player on my friendlist, guild, or heck, every streamer I've seen so far that has no some kind of Raider-fetish have either switched to Deadeye, or are playing Deadeye instead of Raider, every, single one.

Freeze from strongboxes is instant what are you talking about? I use anti-bleed with diamond flask. Elemental status immune if anything is underrated as it makes the runs so much smoother. Bottom line is I wouldn't give up all the benefits of raider for 60% more movement speed. That's assuming you can fit in a anti freeze flask for which you would prob give up the 30% movement speed bonus on the quicksilver flask. Once again why hassle for just 60% movement speed.

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hybridboy escribió:

in POB deadeye is faster and has more DPS.

but in practice i dont think i can give up on phasing.
raider full charged with flasks i have easily over 200% move speed and 5 attack speed.
with deadeye it might get to 5.5, which is nice, but movement speed wise- dont think its gonna matter so much, the diff in move speed should be like 30%.

at this point changing asce to deadeye will cost 40c, and if i wouldnt like it its another 40c :\