[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Why is it "10k+ EHP" in thread title? If even guide author has 5674 HP (8106 eHP), on his screenshot?
Even with 40% MoM it will be lower than 10k.. Or can be improved so much?

To be fair with Energy Shield it is 8,7k. If using Cloak of Defiance it indeed is 10,1k.


And that is before considering the huge block chances... and a bit of some other reductions.

First shaper kill successful, though not deathless (1 death by Malachai boss lol, 2 by shaper himself) I kinda have no experience evading those yellow balls and beams

AG got rek by Shaper beam (or slam? not sure, messy fight) so I guess I will just throw him away unless I got empower/+2 minion helm

Question time: If I have extra currency, what should I invest in? The minions are so strong that I suspect they need any more damage investment, but I'm not sure how I can improve tankiness of the build for comfortable end-game fight?

playing with vis mortis right now, and feel like AG absolutely useless (i have empower 3 and +2 minion helm)
since there are no good replacement thinking about this options:
1) +1 curse corruption on amu and get temp chains/enfeeble+enlighten
2) remove 1 spectre (from boots) get kaom roots instead, stun, freeze, temp chains immune is so sexy, feels like 3 spectres will be enough xD

of course talking about hardcore, 2nd option sucks at standart i guess..

what do you think, boys?

Just came here to say I killed the shaper for the first time. Took all the portals but I did it. I would like some explanation on what I should be doing as far as the playstyle though. I just kidna ran around hitting bone and flesh.

this thread is so meme, instead of discuss build or its options guys just comming here to write "i killed shaper on softcore" 24/7
wow, great achive
its even more ridiculous since author posted video where he killed it on fucking hardcore, so yeah, its easy to kill shaper by this build on softcore, you can just faceroll it, please notice community about your crazy challanges further

I will be sure to "please notice community"

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volosi_nazad escribió:

this thread is so meme, instead of discuss build or its options guys just comming here to write "i killed shaper on softcore" 24/7
wow, great achive
its even more ridiculous since author posted video where he killed it on fucking hardcore, so yeah, its easy to kill shaper by this build on softcore, you can just faceroll it, please notice community about your crazy challanges further

What you don't get is, most of these people share their first ever kills, making their shaper kill indeed an achievement. They are likely surprised how broken overpowered the build feels and wish to share their opinions on the matter.

Please take your salt elsewhere, although the first kill posts are of little informational value, I'll take those over your misguided negativity any day.

well, I consider these "I had my first shaper kill" posts like some feedbacks to the build, meaning the build effectively works for endgame content, even for less experienced players.

Yeah just want to share effectiveness of a build. Some builds are pretty minmaxing, requiring specific skill/playstyle and not easy to follow even when they show videos

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volosi_nazad escribió:

playing with vis mortis right now, and feel like AG absolutely useless (i have empower 3 and +2 minion helm)
since there are no good replacement thinking about this options:
1) +1 curse corruption on amu and get temp chains/enfeeble+enlighten
2) remove 1 spectre (from boots) get kaom roots instead, stun, freeze, temp chains immune is so sexy, feels like 3 spectres will be enough xD

of course talking about hardcore, 2nd option sucks at standart i guess..

what do you think, boys?

I think I saw some people in this thread using Cloak with 3 spectre for tankiness and they've done shaper (and uber?) So I guess why not?