[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Atum84 escribió:
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grimjack68 escribió:
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yissus escribió:
Who has the best gear combo for the animate guardian please?...
From IchiMorghulis quite a few pages back, I've been using his suggested setup for quite a while, and it's pretty awesome.

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IchiMorghulis escribió:
AG-Minion Life-Melee Splash, equipped with Dual Dyadus, BoR, Icetomb, Rainbowstride, and a pair of rare glove with very high fire and lightning resist and some life.

The clear speed is a little bit better but clear speed for these specters are limited by their AI, their range, and minion speed. Against Harbingers, the clear speed is noticeably faster. Where this setup really shines is against bosses. The bosses melts 50% to 100% faster than without the AG. (I have done T16 bosses with this setup but not yet tried shaper, so I don't know if not having Fortify will hurt the AG)


1) If my Empower is only lvl 2 with +1 level bonus to AG and I summon AG now- will the AG gets the +2 level bonus, when Empower reaches lvl 3?

2) You can switch melee splash for Fortify for shaper?

AG - Minion Life - Empower - X (Fortify / additional accuracy / Melee Splash)

Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that Additional Accuracy support is needed for Shaper, but dunno for now

3) BoR on AG is working with a chest armor?

Icetomb is more the offensive part, are there any other options for more survivability?
I'm not sure if your AG will level up as you level up your Empower, to be honest. Why not just buy a corrupt level 3? They're only ~5c, and it beats trying to level one yourself.

You can absolutely switch to Fortify for Shaper, however, with a +2 helm and Empower 3, - and some careful use of convocation - most folks don't seem to find it necessary.

Not too sure about Additional Accuracy - we only need the AG to hit once every few seconds for the additional damage buff. We don't care about the actual DPS output from the AG, so any additional hits or crits are mostly pointless.

BoR absolutely works with chest armour on the AG. Remember, it's not using the actual armour. "Animated items are consumed by the spell" - so it's actually using a spectral copy of the item.

I've talked to folks in Spectre chat - 6666 - who are using Belly of the Beast instead of icetomb. Gives a nice boost to your AG's health, but it's a bit too pricey for what's basically a disposable minion IMHO.
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grimjack68 escribió:
I'm not sure if your AG will level up as you level up your Empower, to be honest. Why not just buy a corrupt level 3? They're only ~5c, and it beats trying to level one yourself.

You can absolutely switch to Fortify for Shaper, however, with a +2 helm and Empower 3, - and some careful use of convocation - most folks don't seem to find it necessary.

Not too sure about Additional Accuracy - we only need the AG to hit once every few seconds for the additional damage buff. We don't care about the actual DPS output from the AG, so any additional hits or crits are mostly pointless.

BoR absolutely works with chest armour on the AG. Remember, it's not using the actual armour. "Animated items are consumed by the spell" - so it's actually using a spectral copy of the item.

I've talked to folks in Spectre chat - 6666 - who are using Belly of the Beast instead of icetomb. Gives a nice boost to your AG's health, but it's a bit too pricey for what's basically a disposable minion IMHO.


thx for the fast reply

well im using skullhead with 20% res and high mana/life bonus - while a rare +2 helmet would only affect the AG, the skullhead affects the spectres which is more important, as TV arent "immortal" like the WM

about empower lvl 3 - i started to play on xbox one and the price for corrupted lvl 3 empower is 100 chaos ;-) for an unlvled lvl 1 empower 25c hehe, so i started to lvl empower by myself

and btw- if i am not really comfortable with AG and doing shaper (e.g. if i only wanna use AG with melee splash for faster map clearing), i can just replace the gems for this fight? and this could be also the answer to 1), because if i add empower to AG gem, then empower gives the +x level bonus, if i remove empower, then the bonus disappears?
Editado por útlima vez por Atum84#0319 en 21 oct. 2017 4:39:49
Btw tried and eventually suceeded finishing hall of grandmasters. A couple of times my T17 minions just got completely a@&raped
I just found Many Wikermen in Overgrown Ruin. Its the same as before, You need to summon wikermen where ever you can low level then you can go to the map and summon like no tomorrow and then you get them, Atlest for me i have found multiple of them. and tukuhamas vanguards so yeah.
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llamaegg escribió:
Hey guys, any opinion on where to start saving for next? I was thinking about aiming for a 5-6 link Vis to replace my Cloak (though not 100% sure yet? As a hardcore player the extra survivability of Cloak is hard to pass up, but the extra Spectre seems pretty clutch for later bosses), and a Scourge to replace my Advancing fortress once I finish uber lab.

Also, what's the consensuses of Animate Guardian? I have a pretty nice +2 minion helm in my stash, and been leveling up a AG, Minion Life, Fortify and Melee Splash in my second gear slot in case I decide to go for it, but have never messed around with it before. Seems like it would be crazy good though.



with the +1 gem levle corruption helps immensely to the AG survival since it boosts both AG and the empower level, with level 4 empower and 21 AG this puts him at level 26, I haven't had my AG die since I made this change, it was some much needed peace of mind for me.

Minion damage on gloves, or life for that matter is good advice, alternately you could try to get yourself something like this


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hedonist escribió:


with the +1 gem levle corruption helps immensely to the AG survival since it boosts both AG and the empower level, with level 4 empower and 21 AG this puts him at level 26, I haven't had my AG die since I made this change, it was some much needed peace of mind for me.

Minion damage on gloves, or life for that matter is good advice, alternately you could try to get yourself something like this




but with corrupted boots you are committed to use the mentioned gems, at least 1G with AA - otherwise you can switch for faster ae clear speed with AG-Minion life-melee splash-empower

so for more luxury we can craft a 2nd boots with BBRR for map clearing or so


the question is maybe, if AA is really needed if you have lvl 24 - 26 AG (well i dont count empower lvl 4 as common, so lvl 24-25 is more realistic)

on the other hand you would be more flexible with a +2 helm
Editado por útlima vez por Atum84#0319 en 21 oct. 2017 6:42:26
I use 4 wickermen with increased aoe as 6th link when I map and it still instantly clears, I don't need my AG at all for aoe purposes, but for anyone that might, good advice my friend.

Same with the helmet slot, however I'm using
so my helm slot is also pretty much set in stone as well.

Main reason I blew some currency on AG was to be able to equip him with full offensive utility and still not lose him.

Currently I have him equipped with southbound gloves with vulnerability corruption, windscream boots for the extra curse(yes it works as long as he has a curse on hit on himself), icetomb, dual dyadus and finally BoR helmet for endurance charges and style points.
Editado por útlima vez por hedonist#7995 en 21 oct. 2017 6:56:45
I need to ask. Best weapon on this build i mean end game "mode" is scourge? Any other weapons good in end game? Maybe any rare or some unique?
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JustMane escribió:
I need to ask. Best weapon on this build i mean end game "mode" is scourge? Any other weapons good in end game? Maybe any rare or some unique?


when you come to the point where the damage bonus from scourge becomes irrelevant(again, in shaper voice) you can switch to brightbeak for more zoom zoom with shield charge
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hedonist escribió:
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JustMane escribió:
I need to ask. Best weapon on this build i mean end game "mode" is scourge? Any other weapons good in end game? Maybe any rare or some unique?


when you come to the point where the damage bonus from scourge becomes irrelevant(again, in shaper voice) you can switch to brightbeak for more zoom zoom with shield charge

What dude? :D brightbeak? :P pls be srsly

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