[3.15] For Scion - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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BenN1ce escribió:

I barely ever get frenzy charges. I am missing something?

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Ezevade escribió:

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BenN1ce escribió:

I barely ever get frenzy charges. I am missing something?

You only get frenzy charges from attacking rare/unique enemies, my modification for the build was meant for high end bosses (shaper, guardians).
Of course that is assuming you took raider ascendancy

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kira1414 escribió:

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RagnarokChu escribió:

How valuable is devo devoation helm if you're using the Bronn's Lithe chest (which lacks defensive stats, but gives you ton of attack speed/movement speed). If you don't need the dex then it might be overall in some offensive stats. Instead of 15% attack speed/20 Movement speed you might be able to wear:

Starkonja's Head:

Trade in movement speed for 100 life

Heretic's Veil:
Can run a 2nd curse for even more damage/defensive (flame + ele weakness or defensive curse, or even more life leech with warlords)

The Tempest's Binding
Super support totem + some decent stats + harbringer buff

Generic super tank helm + resist/other stats:
This will deal with the lack of defensive stats on the chest, allowing you to easily get an enchant on the helm + fill in stats/resist you may need on other slots/jewels for easier gearing.

For "budget" builds this is by far the best choice instead of devo + belly/carcass jack ect.

You want lots of attack speed. The faster you hit, the faster you leech too. So the speed bonus that Devoto provide is a huge plus to the build.

You can certainly run dual curse with Heretic + Belly + Windscream for leveling and use Bronn + Devoto setup for clearing end game bosses.

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RagnarokChu escribió:

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kira1414 escribió:

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RagnarokChu escribió:

How valuable is devo devoation helm if you're using the Bronn's Lithe chest (which lacks defensive stats, but gives you ton of attack speed/movement speed). If you don't need the dex then it might be overall in some offensive stats. Instead of 15% attack speed/20 Movement speed you might be able to wear:

Starkonja's Head:

Trade in movement speed for 100 life

Heretic's Veil:
Can run a 2nd curse for even more damage/defensive (flame + ele weakness or defensive curse, or even more life leech with warlords)

The Tempest's Binding
Super support totem + some decent stats + harbringer buff

Generic super tank helm + resist/other stats:
This will deal with the lack of defensive stats on the chest, allowing you to easily get an enchant on the helm + fill in stats/resist you may need on other slots/jewels for easier gearing.

For "budget" builds this is by far the best choice instead of devo + belly/carcass jack ect.

You want lots of attack speed. The faster you hit, the faster you leech too. So the speed bonus that Devoto provide is a huge plus to the build.

You can certainly run dual curse with Heretic + Belly + Windscream for leveling and use Bronn + Devoto setup for clearing end game bosses.

That is certainly true but it is 10x cheaper to buy for example a generic helm with a +15% attack speed helm and get tons of resist/health on the stat. Devo only beats it out if you actually get the enchant on it. Same goes for the Starkonja's head with base 10% attack speed + 15% from the enchant with 100 life.

Only difference is the 20% movement speed, but the devo helm + tank chest will be as strong as tank helm + bronn's lithe (since that would be the devo dps slot instead but stronger).

10-13x for a Devo devotion vs 20-30c max to 1-2ex for other helms, most money would go a much farther way getting the xoph blood instead for example or general upgrades. imo it's a very good bridge from devo - good helm + 15% cyclone enchant - devo with 15% cyclone enchant.

was trying to color it 2/2/2 but for 5 off color instead, guess i'm keeping this ;v

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Ezevade escribió:

10-13 ex for devoto? What kind of enchant were you buying?
Dont go for cyclone enchants, go for Flammability curse effectiveness its much better

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RagnarokChu escribió:

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Ezevade escribió:

10-13 ex for devoto? What kind of enchant were you buying?
Dont go for cyclone enchants, go for Flammability curse effectiveness its much better

Enchant is +15% attack speed like I said.

I'm making the point that if the only reason we are getting Devo devotion is for the 16% attack speed, we can get a 15% enchant tank helm/another helm which will give the same amount of attack speed while having much more stats (outside of 20% movement speed). Which is an option that isn't devo +40% damage cyclone or 15% attack speed which makes them cost an crazy amount.

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RagnarokChu escribió:

Flammability curse 30% (outside of being rare and hard to get in the ladder) devo brings the curse to 57%, on shaper/guardians it goes down to 11% from 9% (original) so you're really only getting 2% more curse effectiveness.

70c one is 20% effectiveness and there are 3 30% effectiveness on the entire market :V

Not saying that not good but it's 20% movement speed + 2% more curse effectiveness on strong bosses (13% more on trash) vs potential tank stats or let's say 10%/15% attack speed + 15% attack speed on something like a Starkonja's Head or rat's nest.