3.1 Updated - Pathfinder Crit BV - Dedicated Uber Lab Farmer - 375%+ Movement Speed

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SixBlackNinjas escribió:

OP let me know what you think of the changes to VP! I personally think I'll be doing a slayer lab runner instead of a BV speedster but if you figure out a workaround I'd be really happy to hear it!

Nothing will change, except we lose couple skill points to get new VP, also it is going to be more difficult to start build going. Maybe gonna be harder to run reflect maps(i know, that build is not supposed to do that, but i ran them quite safely). Shaper beam facetanking gonna be unreal. Lab performance won't change at all. We have too many layers of defence to be two-shotted

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My_diсk_is_big escribió:

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SixBlackNinjas escribió:

OP let me know what you think of the changes to VP! I personally think I'll be doing a slayer lab runner instead of a BV speedster but if you figure out a workaround I'd be really happy to hear it!

Nothing will change, except we lose couple skill points to get new VP, also it is going to be more difficult to start build going. Maybe gonna be harder to run reflect maps(i know, that build is not supposed to do that, but i ran them quite safely). Shaper beam facetanking gonna be unreal. Lab performance won't change at all. We have too many layers of defence to be two-shotted

Basically, these are my thoughts also. I know I haven't been around this thread in a while but I just saw the change today and wanted to see if anyone had asked the question.

I would personally be comfortable running this character WITHOUT Vaal Pact.

I would just toss in Warlord's Mark for maps and have endurance charge regen + leech + a good life flask.

For lab I would not change anything at all. The character is SUPER tanky and to be honest, a good hybrid flask is going to sufficient against Izaro (at least for me). It's likely you'll have to rely on playing smarter... But that's not a bad thing :)

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I'll update this build ASAP. I just need more information first.

BUT I'm going to work on putting together a new build for the new league once patch notes release.

Awesome to hear! I'm swamped with exams and projects on my final semester so I haven't had much time plan or even think about it much. I appreciate the input.

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SixBlackNinjas escribió:

Awesome to hear! I'm swamped with exams and projects on my final semester so I haven't had much time plan or even think about it much. I appreciate the input.

Hope all goes well for you buddy. Good luck on the schooling.

I'll be keeping an eye on the updates / patch notes so I can fix the guide if needed.

How do u leech?

Hey! This is my first league and towards the second half I have gotten into Uber Lab farming (even though it was supposedly better at the start). I have ran BF claw Zerker that relied on a lot of life regen for traps and now I'm running slaying cyclone for fun, and slayer has proven to be pretty great for uberlab. Both run full key/dark shrine runs in 10-15min on moderate to bad layouts. Your speed has brought me here.

With the Vaal Pact change I don't see how they are going to leave Slayer the way it is, and thus im worried about a nerf to it considering it was going to be my league starter.

Do you recommend your build as a league starter for next league? Obviously assuming nothing drastic changed other than VP. This includes being my absolute first character and leveling to 75+.

Do you recommend farming a shit-ton of uber lab to accumulate wealth starting a league? Over leveling a fast mapper first?

How you deal with traps is just pure speed + hybrid traps, correct?

Lastly, it looks like you face tank uber izaro pretty easily. Is there a break point for that other than resistances?

Thanks for sharing your build. I think I'm going to try it in SSF to see how easily I can get it up and running.

QUICK EDIT:
By farming currency, I mean on par with the current WanderFinder with Bisco's + IIQ. I have roughly ~300-400ex from this league but I was off to an extremely rough start just learning the game itself. This time around I was considering starting with UberLab rather than mapping.

Hi.

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Do you recommend your build as a league starter for next league? Obviously assuming nothing drastic changed other than VP. This includes being my absolute first character and leveling to 75+.

I really wouldn't suggest this character as a league starter because of how much better it gets with a tabula / funding. Not to mention leveling with blade vortex is incredibly tedious.
**However** If you're serious about farming lab and playing long hours. Absolutely make this character first. I did that in Harbinger league and ended up with ~400ex in 2 weeks. (Most of the money came from taking rank 1, though. So don't count on making profits like that)

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How you deal with traps is just pure speed + hybrid traps, correct?

Yes, just run fast and pop the hybrid flask when you need it.

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Lastly, it looks like you face tank uber izaro pretty easily. Is there a break point for that other than resistances?

For a pure evasion character I would suggest an 80% effective evade chance. So if you have 70% on the character sheet + 10% from stibnite smoke. That should be fine.

You really don't even need to face tank him at all, though. With high atk speed and movespeed you can very easily shield charge out of his special attacks.
This is likely what the play style will be like after VP is nerfed soon.




I'm very likely going to play a different build next league. Been trying to think of a way to make spectral throw work well with Gladiator.

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I really wouldn't suggest this character as a league starter because of how much better it gets with a tabula / funding. Not to mention leveling with blade vortex is incredibly tedious.
**However** If you're serious about farming lab and playing long hours. Absolutely make this character first. I did that in Harbinger league and ended up with ~400ex in 2 weeks. (Most of the money came from taking rank 1, though. So don't count on making profits like that)

Firstly, thank you for the input.
I don't yet have a desire to compete for any form of record setting, however I do plan on playing as much as possible when league starts in order to capitalize on currency gain. If strictly making as much money I can within the first week is my goal, you would recommend this or your next build assuming it is as fast?

In my case, would you recommend that I have another build with easier leveling and more suitability (strictly speaking trap immunity here) towards lab first?

It seems all lab farming builds cap out at a brightbeak + prismatic eclipse + leap slam/faster attacks moveset other than yours which is so heavily based on pure run speed. I have found leap slam to be incredibly clunky while maneuvering around walls and thin walkways. It is not that I am not willing to deal with that in order to survive all traps, but I am looking to make sure my UberLab farming is on the same efficiency as my mapping has been.

With patch notes not out yet it is hard to tell, but if there is a direction in a specific type of uberlab farming you think I should aim towards in terms of build, that would be much appreciated.

Sorry for the long walls of text and many ambiguous questions, but I have looked around and end up running around in circles in terms of uberlabbing and I cannot see a better to person to ask than you seeing as your achievements within UberLab farming.


Anoter quick Edit: In terms of profit are you going for max keys/dark shrines or going for fastest completion for more enchants?
Also, for enchants in the first week are you enchanting rare helms? or are you going to uniques that are popular?

Thanks for the long questions. It sometimes gets annoying answering the same boring things over and over. "WHERE DOES LEECH COME FROM HERP DERP".

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If strictly making as much money I can within the first week is my goal, you would recommend this or your next build assuming it is as fast?

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In my case, would you recommend that I have another build with easier leveling and more suitability (strictly speaking trap immunity here) towards lab first?

If you're only interested in short term farming the uber lab to generate currency for another character I would suggest playing a build that is less expensive. Slayers are exceptional at farming end game content because of their massive leech and 20% culling strike.

If you need a specific example of a slayer build to run you can check out my lab farmer here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ChC0wFUl3A
**If you're on mobile or can't click the link. It's basically a Wings of Entropy and Bringer of Rain slayer with lots of evasion / armour/ block. SUPER tanky and can complete all content except shaper and uber atziri.
It's not going to be 25 chaos like the video suggests because at league start the items are going to be in high demand. However, this slayer build is less reliant on gear and levels than the pathfinder so this means you'll be farming lab on day 2 instead of day 3.

Last thing I want to mention is this. If you're very good at making currency early game and you feel like you can acquire all these items AND rush to level 90 within 3 days......(I know, it's a lot to do) The pathfinder is very clearly the best choice. You'll be completing labs literally 2 times as fast as anyone else and it will pay off in the long run.

*note* This was my personal gear on day 3 of Harbinger league.

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With patch notes not out yet it is hard to tell, but if there is a direction in a specific type of uberlab farming you think I should aim towards in terms of build, that would be much appreciated.

Honestly, with the nerf to Vaal Pact, slayers might be the farmer of choice for a lot of people who just want to generate currency.
I'm waiting to see patch notes before I declare anything but I'm leaning towards duelist for the season start.

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Anoter quick Edit: In terms of profit are you going for max keys/dark shrines or going for fastest completion for more enchants?
Also, for enchants in the first week are you enchanting rare helms? or are you going to uniques that are popular?

A few things I need to say here.
At the start of the league you NEED to maximize profits per investment. Do max keys / dark shrines every run.
Fuck silver keys and doors. They're literally garbage.
Until people have the currency to buy helmet enchants, you should try enchanting cheap / unique boots.
Alternatively if YOU have the currency to invest in a few Rat's Nest / Starkonja / Devoto / Whatever other meta helms are available. That's the best bet.
Just try to realize that a good enchant might be worth more if you wait a week. Don't sell stuff cheap because you'll regret it when the economy booms in week 3.
IF you have the build / ability to attempt rank 1 then you should absolutely put effort into trying. But don't over commit because it gets very costly.

Try not to enchant rare helmets that are low item lvl. But it's likely you'll be forced into it if you're farming a lot early on. Not much you can do here unless you're rich.

All around awesome information! This clears up many things I've been wondering while looking through 6 month+ threads!

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If you're only interested in short term farming the uber lab to generate currency for another character I would suggest playing a build that is less expensive.

I'm definitely thinking long term in terms of characters. I've really enjoyed having a character specified for one roll and continuing to gear that character out as much as possible, and then once I have accumulated a large bank, I branch out into other specified characters for mapping, boss killing, etc... and continue the process.
This worked well for me during Harbinger, but I also started with a sunder/zerker that was a middle of the pact everything to generate initial currency while I had no idea what I wanted to do or what to do end game.
I think I will be going with a specified version for UberLab, probably the QotF Pathfinder of yours so long as nothing is changed to drastically.

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At the start of the league you NEED to maximize profits per investment. Do max keys / dark shrines every run.
Fuck silver keys and doors. They're literally garbage.
Until people have the currency to buy helmet enchants, you should try enchanting cheap / unique boots.

Thank you! This is EXACTLY the advice I have been seeking. Maximizing dark shrines/keys at the start makes perfect sense. Also, with enchanting the boots at the start and maybe some unique helms as I can acquire them until I can seek bigger ticket items. Again, thanks a ton.

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IF you have the build / ability to attempt rank 1 then you should absolutely put effort into trying. But don't over commit because it gets very costly.

Interesting idea, but I've just barely started trying to create my own builds. I think if I enjoy the uberlab farming to the extremes I did mapping then I will certainly have to start putting some thought into it. This is the exact reason I was looking into your build; by far the most efficient, and another take on uberlab farming that the extremely safe options I was looking into!

Again, I've gotta hand it to you. Thanks for the information and insight! I will be looking forward to your future builds!