3.1 Updated - Pathfinder Crit BV - Dedicated Uber Lab Farmer - 375%+ Movement Speed

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szulerecki escribió:
Do we honestly need that Vaal Pact? Especially with almost 0 leech on the tree (only leech we have is from flask and curse). I mean we already use Hybrid insta flask and Vaal Pact just make life complicated on some maze-like traps with tight walkways etc.

I just did Uber with level 74, 3,2k HP and these items:

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And honestly? I completly don't see any point in Vaal Pact, might just be me, i don't know. The only part i had issues on were exactly the trap (died in one of my two ubers (2/3 into the lab) exactly because of the trap (lava floor, cuz ofc my only res that isn't capped is ofc fire (61%))

Also again, might be just me, but my DPS feels a bit low? Without power charge, but with Atziri Promise on i can achieve 27k tooltip DPS in hideout (with just Hatred in Essence Worm and Clear Mind Jewel).

Any ideas how to level up from this point to recommended level 85? Mapping is kinda obnoxious, even with Incr. AoE instead of Conectrated Effect, or we have no other choices?


Vaal Pact needs the complet CoH setup to be effectiv and work. You only have Shield charge + fortify. You completly miss the point of playing Sheild Charge.
The only use of Shield Charge is to cast Warlord's Mark (thanks to Curse on Hit support), which is our main leech source. And without this setup, Vaal Pact will be pretty useless. So get the full gem setup on your shield charge and Shield Charge wisely. You will see how Vaal Pact is effectiv at this point.

For your dps issues ... 22k BV 20 stack is way enought to rape Izaro. If you have dps issues I suspect that you forget to cast orb of storms before the fight with Izaro. It's a spell that we can easly forgot to cast.
I would add that you are only level 74, with low level gems, with no quality on most of them. This make a big difference.
Don't rush. It's clearly written in this topic that you should not try Uber lab before you are lvl 85 and have at least 4k hp and 2k mana. You should follow this advice if you have no experience with a labrunner Path Finder BV.

For leveling advice I would suggest you this :
- level 1 to 70 : level in history mods ;
- Level 70 to 75 : level in low tier map (T1-T6) ;
- Level 75 to 85 : level in rota poorjoy (it should take 3 rota) ;
- Level 85-90+ : level in rota Beachhead (it should take 2 rota beachhead to go from 85 to 90).

And for rota poorjoy and rota beachhead, imho, you must have a setup Phase run + Inc dura and you CWDT + IC + Inc Dura. The gameplays consist only in perma phase run and carfully avoid every AoE to avoid every hit that can kill you.
And if you have the currency use an exp leech setup (dual Suprem truth + dual Perandus signet + Cithus helm = +15% exp). It can sounds pretty lame, but even if you try to help with dps, the only thing would happen will be a useless rip. This build isn't suited for maping, as it's written in the "cons" And at this moment of the league, there is way enought dps carry in those rota to allow you to leech.

Hope this will help you.
Editado por útlima vez por LAGROSSESIMONE#3551 en 11 sept. 2017 2:32:30
HI,

I have a Ele Wander Pathfinder and am trying to setup my toon to take advantage of this build's movespeed. I realize my move speed wont be super close to this but atleast it should be closer than it is now.

My main problem is the Evasion. My evasion is only 25K (lvl 17 Grace) (79% MS) / 27K(21 Grace) (83% MS).
With flasks popped i max out at 267% MS and 276% MS respectively. Note: Voideye ring used.

Here's my gear. I have the standard Ele wander skill tree.

Gear




As I can see there are only minute differences between my gear and OP. Can somone explain to me why my movement speed is not even half of his?

Thank you
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Scrapm3tal escribió:
HI,

I have a Ele Wander Pathfinder and am trying to setup my toon to take advantage of this build's movespeed. I realize my move speed wont be super close to this but atleast it should be closer than it is now.

My main problem is the Evasion. My evasion is only 25K (lvl 17 Grace) (79% MS) / 27K(21 Grace) (83% MS).
With flasks popped i max out at 267% MS and 276% MS respectively. Note: Voideye ring used.

Here's my gear. I have the standard Ele wander skill tree.

Gear




As I can see there are only minute differences between my gear and OP. Can somone explain to me why my movement speed is not even half of his?

Thank you


What i see you miss all the % Evasionrating on Ring + Amu
Also you have no Phaserun and no Movement Flask (because you wear 2 damage flasks)
i guess all that % Evasion and Momentspeed stacking makes you lose a lot speed :)
My Character is now level 63 and i got already 320% Movementspeed with flasks and i'm not even wearing my lategame gear :)

i hope i could help a bit :D

And why do you use Herald of Ice and not Lightning? ^^ would make more sense with Vinktar because of more leech :D
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Ayrill escribió:
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Scrapm3tal escribió:
HI,

I have a Ele Wander Pathfinder and am trying to setup my toon to take advantage of this build's movespeed. I realize my move speed wont be super close to this but atleast it should be closer than it is now.

My main problem is the Evasion. My evasion is only 25K (lvl 17 Grace) (79% MS) / 27K(21 Grace) (83% MS).
With flasks popped i max out at 267% MS and 276% MS respectively. Note: Voideye ring used.

Here's my gear. I have the standard Ele wander skill tree.

Gear




As I can see there are only minute differences between my gear and OP. Can somone explain to me why my movement speed is not even half of his?

Thank you


What i see you miss all the % Evasionrating on Ring + Amu
Also you have no Phaserun and no Movement Flask (because you wear 2 damage flasks)
i guess all that % Evasion and Momentspeed stacking makes you lose a lot speed :)
My Character is now level 63 and i got already 320% Movementspeed with flasks and i'm not even wearing my lategame gear :)

i hope i could help a bit :D

And why do you use Herald of Ice and not Lightning? ^^ would make more sense with Vinktar because of more leech :D


The OP has only T4 flat evasion on 1 ring but does have 20% eva on the ammy. That alone cannot be such a significant gap.
Also, The flasks you mention are not the problem because without the flask buffs the OP has around 250%+ MS while i have 79%MS. with the flask buffs he has 600%+ or 400%+ when he still had bad gear and low levels. with flasks up I get 267% MS.
Is the Pantheon section up to date? If so, why do we not use Garukhan? It seems perfect for this build.
@Tetlis thank you so much for the help!


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An1Lusion escribió:
Is the Pantheon section up to date? If so, why do we not use Garukhan? It seems perfect for this build.


I need to take a look at it. I made it before 3.0 officially launched. Good call.

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Scrapm3tal escribió:
HI,

I have a Ele Wander Pathfinder and am trying to setup my toon to take advantage of this build's movespeed. I realize my move speed wont be super close to this but atleast it should be closer than it is now.

My main problem is the Evasion. My evasion is only 25K (lvl 17 Grace) (79% MS) / 27K(21 Grace) (83% MS).
With flasks popped i max out at 267% MS and 276% MS respectively. Note: Voideye ring used.

Here's my gear. I have the standard Ele wander skill tree.

Gear




As I can see there are only minute differences between my gear and OP. Can somone explain to me why my movement speed is not even half of his?

Thank you


I'm using a 3rd movement speed flask. You only have 2.
I get A LOT more evasion and movement speed from my skill tree alone (318% inc evasion from tree)
You have only 120% Inc Evasion on the tree.

On top of this I also have much higher evasion on the gear I use AND I use a Phase run skill gem linked with Enhance.
Editado por útlima vez por Jelbishi#4770 en 11 sept. 2017 10:07:57
Has anyone experienced the issue that you get 1 shot after Izaro has died on the 3rd phase?
Happened to me twice yesterday, I'm just looting the keys and bam, 1 shot.
Traps were down, 3 lieutenants were up.

Can the 3 lieutenants do like 6k damage burst with flasks down and having 3 fonts on you?

That's the only thing I can think of besides there being a bug.

(No, I'm not stupid, I've done 50+ runs this league, never died once before yesterday. Each time I was killed within a split second, hence why I'm wondering)
Editado por útlima vez por Th3LoRD#1542 en 11 sept. 2017 13:27:33
Were you hitting the ice lieutenant? It has reflect iirc.
@Jelbishi
Thx for great build!
Can you please give some advice for gear/gems changes for maps farming?
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Th3LoRD escribió:

(No, I'm not stupid, I've done 50+ runs this league, never died once before yesterday. Each time I was killed within a split second, hence why I'm wondering)


I know you're not stupid but you might face-palm once you realize the frost lieutenant has a reflect aura that basically 1 shots you if you have BV stacked above 10 or so :)

Look at his feet for a "snowflake-like" animation that circulates. That's how you know he is reflecting or not.

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