Fake pricing epidemy on POE.trade to abuse sellers on purpose

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Sochana escribió:

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BJWPDaemonSadi escribió:

I wish there was a "false listing" report button alongside items in poe.trade. So after you message a person and they don't answer for a minute you can click the report button. If it gets five unique reports in an hour the item is taken down. I think it would help things out immensely without too much griefing happening. It wouldn't hurt most honest players, because most honest players aren't going to ignore five people buying the same item in an hour. If the item has already sold in that hour and people are reporting the item, taking the listing down hurts no one.

The only place it would really hurt someone is if a currency item was reported.

Make it so that same item can't be put up by the same player for 24 hours. Less false offers (but not NO false offers), allows people to do something about it, and might clear up 4 people price fixing the whole market.

Nice idea but it cannot work.

If you have some friends or a guild with you and want to sell very rare/pricey item. You just have to report the cheapest in order to be the only seller or the cheapest. Ofc we can also ban these kind of player but the overall complexity is enhanced instead of having a simple system.

The fact is that GGG could make a pretty simple system to sell/buy items but GGG doesn't want to, so we have to deal with all the problem that come with it.

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Aim_Deep escribió:

I can't believe GGG doesn't do anything. This is no better than botting.

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casper0010 escribió:

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Aim_Deep escribió:

I can't believe GGG doesn't do anything. This is no better than botting.

GGG are in a strange spot with this, because of their resistance to including this feature within the game.

They don't own poe.trade, so it's funky for them to penalise players for 'ab'using the system that they don't own. Of course they own the API that allows it, but the issue lies with the sites that aggregate this information rather than GGG themselves.

It's also not uncommon for regular players to massively undervalue their stuff. I used to just throw all jewelry into a '1c' tab for chaos recipe and a few times added very valuable items to this tab without realising the real value. By the definition, this would be scamming, despite not intending to deceive.

Basically it's tough for GGG to come down on players that abuse systems that are essentially not controlled by GGG.

Of course as you say, they could solve this issue with an Auction House, i'm not sure why they're so resistant to it TBH. I can imagine it would take a chunk of server power but with the recent numbers bump with 3.0 I reckon they could justify the expense...

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seanxjohnson escribió:

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casper0010 escribió:

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Aim_Deep escribió:

I can't believe GGG doesn't do anything. This is no better than botting.

GGG are in a strange spot with this, because of their resistance to including this feature within the game.

They don't own poe.trade, so it's funky for them to penalise players for 'ab'using the system that they don't own. Of course they own the API that allows it, but the issue lies with the sites that aggregate this information rather than GGG themselves.

It's also not uncommon for regular players to massively undervalue their stuff. I used to just throw all jewelry into a '1c' tab for chaos recipe and a few times added very valuable items to this tab without realising the real value. By the definition, this would be scamming, despite not intending to deceive.

Basically it's tough for GGG to come down on players that abuse systems that are essentially not controlled by GGG.

Of course as you say, they could solve this issue with an Auction House, i'm not sure why they're so resistant to it TBH. I can imagine it would take a chunk of server power but with the recent numbers bump with 3.0 I reckon they could justify the expense...

There's also the reason that some players (myself included) don't want GGG to get involved with trading at all. I'm in the boat that wants GGG to focus on leagues, expansions, and progression with the game. Micro managing trading so that everything is "fair" detracts from that. Price fixing is not new, most people know about it and can spot it. I suppose some number of new players get burned, but without real numbers, and just not assumptions, I'd be surprised if they ever did anything to fix it.

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Aim_Deep escribió:

In meantime just play SSF if you don't want to be exposed to all the scams going on out there.

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majna escribió:

Tbh a personal list of sellers, that I want hidden from poe.trade would help. Also a filter on the age of listings. Those could be countered by creating fake accounts and relisting, which in turn can be limited by a flter on the age of acounts.
P.s. I believe you can implement the filtering based on a personal blacklist on client side, via java script.

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Docbp87 escribió:

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emulatin escribió:

waiting for the price fix mafia to take over this thread and make everyone believe that poe.trade is faultless

The system is fine. The players are the problem.