[3.11] Shaper = Stunned, Tidebreaker Heavy Strike Stunner Build

Hello guys, this is a guide to my stun build created since the Legacy League. Centered around Tidebreaker, this was a solid build that could do all content and could stun-lock everything including Shaper. Patch 3.11 introduced stun immunity phases for bosses, rendering the whole stun-locking tactic obsolete; this build has thus lost its core strength.

Although it's called a Heavy Strike build, you're free to choose almost any other melee skill you like.

In this guide, the abbreviation "r.E.S.T." appears often; it stands for the "reduced Enemy Stun Threshold" modifier.


(Showcase of my collections.)



Patch 3.12 brings no changes to this build at all.


Important Changes in 3.11
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*"...bosses now become immune to stuns for a short duration after being stunned... Most major bosses and Map bosses have a stun immunity duration of two seconds... This duration is longer on powerful bosses like Guardians, the Shaper, the Elder and Sirus, lasting four seconds." This is a big nerf to stun builds. This change is going to make Sirus and Shaper stun-locking a legacy that won't be achieved any time soon anymore.

What it implies: this build will still function in maps as normal, however, losing the appeal of stun-locking difficult bosses and skip many mechanics means that this build shouldn't be advertised as a "strong and all-rounder" build anymore. I think the tag that will fit would be something like "a meme build that doesn't actually suck".



Most PoB links and images in this guide has not been updated because of time issues. However, the majority of the build remains the same. Below is a sample PoB setup for 3.11:

An initial thought: https://pastebin.com/4NMwCFnT


Overview
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With this build, you can expect 7k+ life and 5M to 10M Shaper DPS depending on your Ascendancy / tree / gearing choices (without Vaal skill / placing Banner / focus / Berserk; not counting totem damage and culling; no legacy items).


Path of Building
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Pastebin links to this build based on items I own:

-Berserker version: https://pastebin.com/vMrtFqgd

-Slayer version: https://pastebin.com/uJwcuHY4

*I am using LocalIdentity's PoB fork. The original PoB is inaccurate, so I do suggest you using this fork as well. Installation Page

*By default I am showing Heavy Strike w/ Fortify corruption, you can switch to the secondary weapon and PoB will show Heavy Strike w/o Fortify corruption.

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Pros:

1. Stun-locks trash mobs and stuns bosses. Which means melee mobs won't bother you and you have an easier time targeting and DPSing bosses.
2. Solid offense and defense (7000+ life, 6-7 endurance charges).
3. Works well on a budget, does not require any luxurious gears.
4. Hardcore viable.
5. A number of ascendancies, gears, gems and passive tree choices.

Cons:

1. It's melee.
2. Since 3.11 bosses can no longer be stun-locked.
3. Rely on leeching and stunning, so lagging can be problematic.
4. Weapon swap is needed for maximum performance.


Passives
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Ascendancy
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We can choose from Berserker (Marauder) and Slayer (Duelist). You should consider picking Slayer; I strongly recommend against picking Berserker in 3.11.

Berserker has a much higher DPS and mobility. This ascendancy has a weaker passive defense, which is covered by positioning, stunning, and using Molten Shell and flasks consciously.

Slayer is slower but offers many utilities like unending leech, increased AoE, reflect immunity, etc. It's much tankier and more well-rounded.


Berserker
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Crave the Slaughter
-Rage generation. Must-pick.

Aspect of Carnage
-40% more damage. Must-pick.

Rite of Ruin
-Triple rage effect (100% damage, 50% attack speed, 20% movement speed) and stun immunity. Must-pick.

War Bringer
-Okay choice if you don't mind using Warcry.

Pain Reaver
-Allows you to ignore life leech on your jewelries, and some conditional bonus attack speed. Pick this if you don't like War Bringer.

Flawless Savagery
-Useless.

Blitz
-Useless.

Slayer
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Impact
-Tons of increased AoE and 15% more damage; must-pick.

Headsman
-10% more damage while mapping, 20% more damage against bosses, and physical reflection immunity; must-pick.

Endless Hunger + Brutal Fervour
-This is a 4 points investment, and we get: stun and bleed immunity, 70% increased damage, 15% attack speed, 6% reduced damage taken, and "life leech effects are not removed at full life". This is a very solid choice.

Brutal Fervour Explained
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In this game, each hit produces an independent leech instance that leeches at 2% (affected by "#% increased total recovery per second from life leech") of max life per second; the duration of this instance is proportional to the damage dealt in this hit (affected by "#% of damage leeched as life"), and capped by 5 seconds (affected by "#% increased maximum recovery per life leech"). Different instances stack but maximum leech rate cannot exceed 20% (affected by "#% increased maximum total recovery per second from life leech").

So, we need to land around 10 hits to reach the maximum leech rate, which, in single target scenarios, is several seconds into the fight.

The problem is that all the leech instances vanish when we reach full life. Let's imagine we leeched to full life and suddenly we are savagely hit down to 30% life. Now you really want to Leap Slam away, but after leaping away you're a melee character with 30% life and there are no leech instances on you.

With Brutal Fervour, when you leap away, you will still be leeching at 20% life per second or more; you can see your life going up rapidly even though you're just retreating. This is a significant defense advantage.

Bane of Legends
-Not too great as we already have 10% culling from Skull Cracking, but it's still a boost to clear speed.

Overwhelm
-Useless.

Masterful Form
-Useless.


Passive Tree
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Depending on your preferences and access to cluster jewels, you should design your own passive tree. The general guideline below offers an insight of recommended nodes and clusters.


General Guideline
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Red: mendatory
Blue: class specific
Yellow: choose one
Green: recommended
Purple: optional / conditional




About Vaal Pact
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If you picked Brutal Fervour as Slayer, you may consider picking Vaal Pact, but it's not recommended.

1. Unless you have Brutal Fervour, Vaal Pact will disable Damage on Full Life while we are using Blood Rage.

2. Leech is not as reliable when you don't have Brutal Fervour. For detailed explanation, read about Slayer's Brutal Fervour in the Ascendancy choice section above.

3. Leech instances have a 5 second max duration. Picking Brutal Fervour will result in degen due to Blood Rage while backtracking in maps.



Below are some sample trees (without cluster jewels).

Slayer Leveling Tree (<60 level)

Berserker Level 95 Tree

Slayer Level 95 Tree

Cluster Jewels
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We have access to 2 outermost jewel sockets. We can use cluster jewels on one or both of them.

Note that mediocre cluster jewels are not worth using, and well rolled ones can be very difficult to obtain. Play the build as if cluster jewels don't exist unless you have enough currency to spare.

For the large jewel, look for Overlord; Feed the Fury is also particularly strong for Slayer.

Medium and Small jewels are typically not worth it. Just put regular jewels into medium / small jewel sockets.

Anointing Enchant
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We get 1 Anointing notable from amulet enchant. This notable is worth about 3 passive points, so do not use this enchant for what you would be able to get with only 2 passive points into the tree. Below I will talk about a few good choices:

1. Tenacity. Good value.

2. Tribal Fury. This is a good choice if you use Heavy Strike extensively, or use other Strike skills like Flicker Strike.

3. Soul Raker. Mana leech as well as some life leech; okay choice if you cannot find any mana leech from your jewelries.

4. Fervour. +1 Frenzy charge, good for mapping speed and Flicker Strike.

Bandits
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Berserker: Oak.

*You need to take Oak and take the 0.8% life regen node near Marauder start to have a positive net regen after deducting degen from Blood Rage and rage stacks. Otherwise, Damage on Full Life would be deactivated.

*To achieve the same purpose, you may take the Combat Stamina cluster instead, and kill all bandits to take 2 passive points.

Slayer: kill all to take 2 passive points.

Pantheon
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Major God choices:

-Soul of Lunaris offers solid defense, it's great for mapping, especially for Cyclone.
-Soul of the Brine King offers great crowd control resistances, good choice as well.
-Soul of Solaris is what I would switch to for certain boss fights (Izaro, Minotaur).

Minor God should be Soul of Tukohama for bossing and Soul of Garukhan for mapping. Some other choices might also be good for certain bosses, like Sould of Shakari for chaos damage boss and Soul of Yugul for Atziri.



Gears
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Sample Gears
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Those are the gears I own in Standard. In my PoB page, I manually reduced my items to non-legacy versions; the gems slotted are out-dated.

You can also check my character profile and see my gears on my Delirium character.

Detailed Breakdown
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In principle, we want to cap our resists, get as much life as possible, and get a mana leech mod from our gears.


Weapon
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Tidebreaker is BiS for stunning.

We may want 2 Tidebreakers, and put single-target setup in one of them, and AoE setup on another. Then we can simply do weapon swap and swap between 2 skills.

A well rolled rare weapon is also a strong contender here.

Kongor's Undying Rage is a good substitute before you can afford a Tidebreaker.

Body Armour
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Kaom's Heart is generally the best choice; note that the fire damage roll is not important at all.

A 6-link rare body armour is also viable, but you should have a good reason for doing so.

In case of a small budget, you can start this build with Tabula Rasa.

Helmet
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Devoto's Devotion is the best option in general. Starkonja's Head is also pretty good and much cheaper. You can also get a rare helmet, but you will have a hard time finding the correct enchantment.

The best enchant is "Heavy Strike has a 12% chance to deal Double Damage". However, if you're not planning to use Heavy Strike very often, you can consider other enchants like attack speed from Blood Rage or Leap Slam.

Gloves
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You have a couple of choices here.

Tombfist offers Intimidate and the Abyss jewel slotted can have Onslaught on kill, which is a boost to clear speed.

Empire's Grasp eliminates the knockback problem from Heavy Strike and Lion's Roar; creates nice vacuuming effect with Cyclone. It doesn't offer any stats so make your own decision.

Haemophilia is also a reasonable choice.

Hands of the High Templar can be very strong or even BiS with the right combination of implicits.

Null and Void offers rampage and is a nice pair of mapping gloves as well.

Rare gloves are also very viable, especially if you're having trouble capping your resists.

Boots
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Redblade Tramplers. Cheap and effective.

You may also go for rare boots. High end rare boots can have much higher movement speed and resists.

Belt
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Ryslatha's Coil is the top choice as it offers an upper bound of 27% more damage. Doryani's Invitation is also very good for stunning.

*Remember to apply Abrasive Catalyst to your Ryslatha's Coil for 20% quality.


Ryslatha's Coil
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Ryslatha's Coil might seem useless at first glance, but it's extremely powerful if you have a big damage range. Tidebreaker introduces a damage range of 3 times, meaning that our maximum damage is around 3 times higher than our minimum damage.

If we say our minimum damage is 50 and our maximum damage is 150, our expectation value of each hit is 100. Now say that we have a Ryslatha's Coil with x% more maximum damage and y% less minimum damage. Our average damage becomes (150*(1+x%)+50*(1-y%))/2 = 100+0.75x-0.25y.

This means Ryslatha's gives (0.75x-0.25y)% more damage, and for a perfect roll of 48%/36% at 20% quality, it gives 27% more damage.

This formula also tells us that each percentage in the maximum damage roll is 3 times more important as the one in the minimum damage roll. A 40%/40% Ryslatha's is as good as a 37%/31% one.



Besides Ryslatha's Coil, a Stygian Vise (Abyss belt) can also be a good choice.

Amulet / Rings
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You will want rare amulet and rings with really high resists to cap your resists. Besides that, try to get high life rolls as well as:

-Mana leech. You need to have mana leech on one of your amulet / rings, it's mandatory unless you get it from cluster jewels.

-Dexterity. You want at least 111 dexterity (for Faster Attacks), and you should aim for 155 (for Blood Rage); it's best to find an amulet with a dexterity base. It's possible to need some intelligence as well.

-You may go for Unset rings if you're using Kaom's Heart and are running out of gem sockets.

-Flat physical damage. It's not as important as life and resists.

-The flat mana cost master-craft, which will allow us to drop Blood Magic from our Leap Slam setup.

-Focus master-craft. You might go for something like "shock nearby enemies when you focus"; not necessary though.

*You may go for a Pride Aul's Uprising. Vulnerability Impresence can be a good choice as well if you can't afford a Vulnerability corruption on your gloves. When using unique amulets, you probably need rare gloves to help you cap resists and get enough dexterity.

Jewels
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2 of Weight of the Empire basically means up to 33% more damage, depending on if you have other sources of double damage.

Only socket these jewels if you're using Heavy Strike frequently. Take these out if you're mapping w/ other skills.

Lethal Pride can be socketed near the Marauder start, and can be much better than rare jewels if you can divine it to a good seed. I strongly recommend getting one if you can afford the jewels and maybe 5 divines for it.

cluster jewels can be socketed in cluster jewel sockets. Details are in the Passives section.


Fill your other jewel sockets with rares jewels.

1st priority: life, attack speed with maces, attack speed, resists or attributes if needed.

2nd priority: physical damage with maces, attack damage/speed with two hand weapons, physical damage, melee damage, damage, attack and cast speed.

Abyss jewels are not as good as ordinary jewels. Look for Onslaught on kill, flat life, flat physical damage, attack speed, and resists.

Flasks
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Lion's Roar is a must-have.

You can go for Atziri's Promise, Sin's Rebirth and Taste of Hate if you're planning to do the mixed damage version of this build.

Silver flask is nice to have. Bottled Faith is good too, if you can afford it.


During mapping, you will want 2 magic flasks to deal with freeze and bleed (Slayer with Endless Hunger is immune to bleeding). You can pick Silver flask for mobility and DPS, Granite for additional armour (synergizes with Molten Shell) or Basalt for reliable mitigation against large hits.

I recommend bringing 1 life and 4 utility flasks.


Budget Options
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This build scales linearly with item progression. You can start this build with leveling items and gradually reach its full potential with 10+ exalts (mostly for a 6-link). Below is an example of how to progress with this build.

1st stage. Now you have finished the story line. Get a Tidebreaker if it's within 20c; else, buy Kongor's Undying Rage. Get a Tabula Rasa or a 5-link rare body armour. For less than 5c a piece, get Redblade Tramplers, Ryslatha's Coil, and good amulet and rings with decent life and resist rolls; make sure that you have your resists capped. For the unique slots, get them if they're cheap; else, maybe buy cheap alternatives (see Detailed Breakdown section).

2nd stage. As you started farming currencies in maps, now you want to have the following items unless they're really expensive: Tidebreaker, Redblade Tramplers, Devoto's Devotion and Ryslatha's Coil. You should decide on your choice of gloves. Also consider Lion's Roar if it's cheap.

3rd stage. Get a 5-link on your Tidebreaker, then put on a chest with high life roll temporarily while saving up for a Kaom's Heart. Try to get a Devoto's Devotion with desired enchant. Upgrade your other gear pieces if possible.

4th stage. Get a 6-link Tidebreaker and put your previous 5-link Tidebreaker in your secondary weapon slot. Maybe try 6-linking both Tidebreakers. Now this build is semi-complete.

5th stage. See the Luxurious Upgrades section. There is a small room for you to further optimize your build with luxurious items.

6th stage (non-existent). Most builds demand very high-end Mirror worthy gears to achieve their full potential. It's common to see a Mirrored Opal ring providing 20-30% DPS boost to those builds. This is not the case for our build. With semi-decent items you will be able to reach this build's full potential.

Luxurious Upgrades
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1. Effective upgrades:

-20% quality on all relevant gems. Typically, it's around 1.3% more damage per gem. (Quality bonuses on some gems can be totally useless, check Wiki before making investments.)
-A 6-link Tidebreaker with 28% or 30% quality; 6-link can be equivalent to 50% more damage from putting in Damage on Full Life, compared to a 5-link weapon; 28% quality is equivalent to 8% more damage.
-"Heavy Strike has a 12% chance to deal double damage" enchant on helmet; this is equivalent to up to 7.5% more damage.
-"Curse enemies with level # Vulnerability on hit" corruption implicit on gloves; this gives 6% more damage against Shaper/Guardians, around 25% more damage against trash mobs (significant clear speed boost).


2. Redundant upgrades:

-"+1 to maximum endurance charges" corruption implicit on boots; or a "16% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Killed Recently" enchant.
-Any useful corruption on Kaom's Heart; increased damage is probably the best one, but is also the most expensive.
-Fortify corrupted Tidebreaker: it's a significantly boost to DPS while extremely difficult to obtain; you won't need it for most end-game content.
-Most Awakened Support gems; they are not significant upgrades, only buy them if you have currency to spare.
-Lvl 21 Heavy Strike: only 1.2% more damage.
-Lvl 21 Support gems: only 0.67% more damage or less for each lvl 21 support gem.



Gem Setup
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Tidebreaker 5L/6L, Single Target
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Heavy Strike + (Awakened) Brutality + (Awakened) Melee Physical Damage + Bloodlust + Damage on Full Life + (Awakened) Multistrike (6th link)

-Tidebreaker offers a 7th link: Endurance Charge on Melee Stun.

-You may also replace 1 gem with Awakened Multistrike if you're well-geared. Explanation given below.

-You may also replace 1 gem with Fortify if you don't have other sources of Fortify.


Support Gems Explained
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1. Use (Awakened) Brutality when you go pure phys.

2. (Awakened) Melee Physical Damage is a strong choice.

3. Fortify Support doesn't offer as much damage, use it when you don't have other sources of Fortify.

4. Damage on Full Life is not bad, but the conditional effect makes it the less wanted choice here.

5. Bloodlust is great when it's active. However, you need some investment (having Chance to Bleed Support or picking Bloodletting cluster) to have bleed chances. Good for serious boss fights.

6. Ruthless can be used to replace either Damage on Full Life or (Awakened) Multistrike.

7. Added Fire Damage or Faster Attacks should never be considered; they are bad.


Bloodlust
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To enable Bloodlust, we need some chance to bleed on hit. Then our totem (as well as Frenzy and Leap Slam) will apply bleed to the enemy.

We can have 25% bleed chance added to totem if Chance to Bleed Support is linked to Warchief. The Vulnerability curse also gives 30% chance to bleed; but against Shaper/Guardians, it's reduced to 10% due to reduced curse effect.

You can also pick up bleed chance from the passive tree.

Will my Damage on Full Life work
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As long as you have enough regen or leech (Slayer with Brutal Fervour only) to compensate for your life loss from Blood Rage and rage stacks (Berserker), your Damage on Full Life will work.

1. Besides Berserker, Damage on Full Life will always work unless Vaal Pact is picked without picking Brutal Fervour (Slayer).

2. Sometimes you see yourself at near full life with Blood Rage on, this is a display bug and Damage on Full Life is still effective.

3. For Berserker, you need to calculate your total regen and degen carefully. If you follow my setup strictly, Damage on Full Life should be active.

*Picking Blood Magic will completely disable Damage on Full Life.



Tidebreaker 5L/6L, AoE
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There are many possibilities, here are 2 of the sample set ups:

Heavy Strike + (Awakened) Brutality + (Awakened) Melee Splash + (Awakened) Ancestral Call + (Awakened) Multistrike + (Awakened) Melee Physical Damage (6th link)

Cyclone + (Awakened) Brutality + (Awakened) Melee Physical Damage + Infused Channelling + Pulverise + Damage on Full Life (6th link)

-Tidebreaker offers a 7th link: Level 20 Endurance Charge on Melee Stun.

-Replace 1 gem with Fortify Support if you don't have other sources of Fortify.

*If clearing with Cyclone, it can be a good idea to utilize Impale with Impale Support and Dread Banner. There are pros and cons from doing so; I recommend testing it out yourself and make your own decision.

-Ideally, you want to have 2 Tidebreakers for the single target and AoE setups separately, but AoE setups can be used to handle most boss fights.

-You may choose freely what AoE skills you wish to use. Other skills like Ground Slam, Sunder, Sweep, Flicker Strike are also great. This choice is mostly down to preference.

Leap Slam
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Leap Slam + Faster Attacks

-If you don't have other sources of Fortify, you want to add Fortify here.

-You may link Blood Magic here if you run into mana issues; alternatively, you can get flat mana cost master-craft on your jewelries.

Totem
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Vaal Ancestral Warchief

-If you're not running Flesh and Stone, you should link Maim Support here. Else, link Maim to Flesh and Stone instead.

-If you're running Bloodlust in your 6-link, and do not have bleed chances from other sources, you need to link Chance to Bleed Support here.

Utility
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Auras: Pride (50%), Flesh and Stone + Maim (28%), [Blood and Sand or War Banner] (10%)

Buffs: Blood Rage, Vaal Molten Shell

*If Flesh and Stone is not used, link Maim Support with Warchief instead.

*Blood and Sand only works with AoE skills, for single-targeting with Heavy Strike, use War Banner instead.

*You may link Molten Shell with CwDT if you feel lazy. Steelskin is viable as well.

Alternatives
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Below are some suggestions to fill the extra gem slots:

1. Link with auras: Enlighten
2. Warcry
3. Berserk (if you have rage generation)
4. Lightning or Stone Golem
5. CwDT linked with Guard skill
6. Portal
7. Unlinked Vaal Ground Slam


After setting up all the key gems, you may still have a couple of gem slots left; you can pick from the alternatives recommended above or run any gems of your preference.


Mixed Damage Version
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Currently, this build uses Brutality and deals pure physical damage. Historically, this build used Herald of Ash and flasks like Sin's Rebirth, Atziri's Promise and Taste of Hate.

For reasons like playing in a party and have auras from others, or using Tectonic Slam and have damage conversion, you may want to go for the mixed damage instead - just take out the Brutality Support and replace with whatever you like.

The mixed damage version deals similar DPS compared to pure damage version. Advantages of the mixed damage version include being able to benefit more from allies' auras, having on-kill blast from Herald of Ash; disadvantages include lower stun capability (physical damage is 25% better at stunning), lower defense / mobility from utility flasks, etc.

*You only need to swap gems to change between both versions. Therefore, you can always use one version for some content, then use another version for some other content.





This is the end of the guide. I will keep the guide updated and check this thread often, so feel free to leave comments down below if you have any questions or suggestions.



Additional Info
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Changelog
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09/16/20: Changed the Changes in 3.12 section to a statement that there's no changes from the new patch at all.
09/09/20: Added Changes in 3.12 section.
07/30/20: Removed the Leveling Tips section; some other minor revisions.
07/11/20: Revised the whole guide to adapt to 3.11 changes. Only texts were updated, no changes to links or images.
06/18/20: Updated the Changes in 3.11 section. Removed sections Awakened Multistrike, How good is Stun Support, Curse Discussion.
06/16/20: Updated the Changes in 3.11 section with patch notes. Removed Alternative Playstyle, Simulation Codes, Frenzy, Crit Version, Boss Fight Tactics, Stun Mechanics sections.
06/15/20: Updated the Changes in 3.11 section with dev manifesto.
06/12/20: Updated the Changes in 3.11 section with the rage keystone.
06/09/20: Updated the Changes in 3.11 section with the warcry changes.
06/02/20: Added Changes in 3.11 section.
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06/19/20: Patch 3.11 launched; the build was nerfed to the ground.
03/13/20: Patch 3.10 launched; a significant buff due to cluster jewels.
09/13/19: Patch 3.9 launched; significant boost of end-game boss' life pool.
09/06/19: Patch 3.8 launched; some minor nerfs.
06/07/19: Patch 3.7 launched; melee league; huge buffs.
03/08/19: Patch 3.6 launched; some minor nerfs.
12/07/18: Patch 3.5 launched; some significant buffs.
08/31/18: Patch 3.4 launched; some minor buffs.
06/01/18: Patch 3.3 launched; some minor buffs.
03/02/18: Patch 3.2 launched; heavy buffs mostly due to the ECoMS Support buff.
12/08/17: Patch 3.1 launched; some minor buffs.
08/04/17: Patch 3.0 launched; Ruthless gem came out and made stun-locking Shaper possible with this build.
03/16/17: Build posted; decided to post after I stun-locked a tier 15 boss to death.
03/03/17: Legacy League launched and Tidebreaker came out; I started leveling my first stunner.
02/20/17: Tidebreaker revealed; build planning started.

Acknowledgement
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During the creation of this build, I had wonderful discussions with Thorminathor and Lokiwider, which were crucial to the initial success of this build. I must also acknowledge all that responded with your questions and suggestions for your contributions to this build's further refinement.

Editado por útlima vez por brightwaha en 16 sept. 2020 2:32:49
Reflotado por última vez en 1 abr. 2024 6:18:13
This looks really good, i would really want to try this out onece i finish farming my currencies
Just one thing, the belt Perseverance will completely disable if you have iron reflex, since your evasion rating became 0, but i guess it's still worth it since the other stats are just as juicy


Now im think to use champion and maximize the value of the belt, and wondering if armor+evasion build would ever work
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751935736 escribió:
This looks really good, i would really want to try this out onece i finish farming my currencies
Just one thing, the belt Perseverance will completely disable if you have iron reflex, since your evasion rating became 0, but i guess it's still worth it since the other stats are just as juicy


Now im think to use champion and maximize the value of the belt, and wondering if armor+evasion build would ever work


Yes, the attack speed bonus from belt Perseverance will be completely disabled. I picked up this belt simply for the fortify and onslaught effect it provides (other stats are also pretty good).

Champion can work too, but I personally don't recommend. Unless you are going to put a 6L AOE skill on your body armour, you will need the melee splash that Slayer ascendancy provides (also 20% culling and some stun duration can be very handy).

As for armor+evasion build, I think it's viable, but you need to keep in mind: if you fail to stack a good amount of armor, it almost does nothing against large hits; evasion can still be effective without stacking too much of it. So I would suggest focusing on armor while grabbing some evasion if you can.

EDIT: If you're reading this, you should be aware that those responses were written in March, 2017. The build was very different back then and any information here can be very misleading.
Editado por útlima vez por brightwaha en 22 feb. 2018 16:02:04
Hi,

I was considering something like that as a Berserker. But I find that 200DPS is more than I anticipated. Can you list what did the biggest difference?
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Sarik escribió:
Hi,

I was considering something like that as a Berserker. But I find that 200DPS is more than I anticipated. Can you list what did the biggest difference?


Without any auras and buffs, my character has only 40k+ tooltip DPS. But there are a lot of factors that can add to it.

1. My tooltip DPS does not take into account the threshold jewels. From 2 threshold jewels and helmet enchantment, we can have 52% chance to deal double damage with our Heavy Strike. That is 52% MORE dmg.
2. 50% increased damage at 5 endurance charges (from Tidebreaker), and 20% MORE damage and 20% attack speed at 5 frenzy charges.
3. Onslaught buff (from Perseverance), Hatred aura, blood rage buff, and increased physical dmg while leeching.
4. From the Warchief totem, we will have a 18% MORE damage buff. Also the totem itself deals around 1/6 of our own dmg with only one faster attacks support. (If replacing Kaom's Heart with a 6L rare body armour, the totem itself can deal more than 10k. Then our total DPS can reach 300K.)

In maps, when buffs are up, my tooltip goes up to 120K. After manually counting the effect of threshold jewels it's already 18K (not counting warchief dmg). Remember some of my gears are 1c items and many of my gems are 19/0. So we can expect way more than 200K DPS with good gears.

My calculations didn't take into account the 20% culling from Slayer ascendancy. If you wish to count that, multiply the 200K by another 125%.

EDIT: If you're reading this, you should be aware that those responses were written in March, 2017. The build was very different back then and any information here can be very misleading.
Editado por útlima vez por brightwaha en 22 feb. 2018 16:01:44
I play with bright often his build is fun and quite similar to mine, here is my tree for a berzerker version of this build. Clearing t13 maps solo with it.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAECAAHnBLMFLQmWC2EMXw3NEuEUIBRNFPYW6RhdGJEaVRrkHKccziGQJDcrUC5TNZI26DkOOp064Ts7PC087z38QT9Hfk3jUEdR5lOlVw1YY18_X9BhIWVNaGVo8mqla9lyqXTtdqx3U3zZggeDX4PMhNmE74VShjuHaoiPjM-QbJHOlIeWbJd5mAqYV57Fns2iAKLqplenMKknqZStja9sr6e2pLc-vJ-9Nr6nvwjAZsT2xq7G2M9-0iHTb9i92WHawd6W37LkUeoQ6hjrCe8O8B_yQfJF8pzzm_ZI9zL4X_xL_TD-Cv5U_o__0w==
Editado por útlima vez por Thorminathor en 21 mar. 2017 5:17:05
Hey guy,

I link you my tree, for pretty much the same build :).

http://poeplanner.com/AAYAAPcUIwB5uR0V7JkrvYHKkITZR369NmVNvqeplHh6qSeHaoTv2sF07QUteu9AoF4TktAS4SFV3D0HdcCmLPuKIicg705hUpOoirNXVIZg829J1Qm75K1nWGCROlK8nxiR_EsUTQHnpzC2pN6WmAoOPBRx-Ovz3Whlu-2RzuoYdqzPflHmtC8hNEE_37KUh57F9zJ82XKpidhoWNeWxPbGrjwtg1-DzLc-_grYvTWS_o9N46ZXOuHyRf0wiI8a5Gqlrj5nm-RRUEfvDpd5CZY5DhQgXz_2SIzPPfxYY9l8ggfyQa2NRrfTb6U1DHA7tvVh79FDo1HalSQAAAAAAA==
I was wondering if this works with a 5 link Tidebreaker?
if so what skill would you drop in the 6 link for it
here's my tidebreaker

Editado por útlima vez por DiscoPug en 16 abr. 2017 16:30:00
Hey man, leveled this toon, 70 for now, but clear speed is like real slow, at least if you want to clear a lot of maps, would AoE improve this? any ideas on how to clear faster? I already have the slayer ascendancy.

Thanks.
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DiscoPug escribió:
I was wondering if this works with a 5 link Tidebreaker?
if so what skill would you drop in the 6 link for it
here's my tidebreaker



Only 4 gems are necessary. First 3 are Heavy Strike, Melee Phy Dmg, Added Fire Dmg; the 4th link is Multistrike for dps or Stun Support for stuns. For the 5th/6th links, you can choose from Faster Attacks, Melee Dmg on Full Life or Weapon Elemental Dmg depending on your gears and encounter.

A 5 link Tidebreaker is good enough. You lose about 20% of dmg compared to a 6 link weapon, but everything else works well.

EDIT: If you're reading this, you should be aware that those responses were written in March, 2017. The build was very different back then and any information here can be very misleading.
Editado por útlima vez por brightwaha en 22 feb. 2018 16:01:14

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