[3.9?] Sidefx Frost Blades - Hyped for Support +

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Sidefx06 escribió:
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viruspk escribió:
can reflect kill me on 6k hp ? i took some more life % points in tree becouse i play hc, but this build is amazing tbh
yes esp because of all your cold pen. reflect will hit you with pen as well.


I might be wrong but...i am quite sure that reflected dmg does not count in cold penetration.
No rest for the wicked.
so i checked out multiple builds to see the gem setup for frostblade. some use FA, some use Added cold dmg. some use both. fully buffed i get with added cold like 5-8k more dps then with faster attacks. higehr cold dmg also means freezes happen more often. so i want to know why should i use faster attacks? with silver flask frenzy charges and vaal haste we should have neough attack speed.

would like to hear some opinions about this
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Daiena escribió:
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Sidefx06 escribió:
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viruspk escribió:
can reflect kill me on 6k hp ? i took some more life % points in tree becouse i play hc, but this build is amazing tbh
yes esp because of all your cold pen. reflect will hit you with pen as well.


I might be wrong but...i am quite sure that reflected dmg does not count in cold penetration.


poewiki

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Reflect cares about the damage taken after mitigation, not the amount of life removed.[1][2] The offensive stats of a creature can affect whether it takes reflected damage (accuracy, block chance reduction, etc.), but cannot affect the amount of damage dealt (critical strikes, penetration, ignoring resistance, damage modifiers, etc).[3]


@Tzesar I don't believe you should use it. We got enough attack speed. Other gems give more damage. I'm using in a 5 link FB + multistrike + melee physical + weapon elemental + cold pentration

Debating between increased critcal strikes, critcal damage, elemental focus or cold support for 6 link.
Editado por útlima vez por Ratedetar#0768 en 4 abr. 2017 18:32:57
well melee physical only increases the melee dmg added cold does increase the melee and projectile. well atm i dont have problems with bosses and dps seems ok. i get fuly buffed liek 180k dps tooltip.

my link is like this: FB. multi-coldpen.added cold-wed-critmult.

also i changed for whirling strile to fortify support instead of culling helps alot with survivabilty

think i should get taste of hate next to replace my atziri promise
Editado por útlima vez por Tzesar#6682 en 4 abr. 2017 20:34:43
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gokudin escribió:
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lussiano escribió:
Just reached level 74 with the build and I'm enjoying it a lot. Too bad we don't have mana to use Whirling Blades at will. Also, I'm not sure about the best sixth gem for us: Increased Critical Strikes or Increased Critical Damage? What about Added Cold Damage?


Add critical DMG will give u more dps early and critical strike CHANCE give u more dps late game

added cold dmg doesnt give so much dps after all tests i decide to use frost blades> WED> Phy Dmg> MultStrike> Increase critical chance> cold pen

i have 90k dps in HO

about whirling blades i have the same problem in lvl 90


How the *$&# do you have 90k dps in your hideout? I am level 82, with a 40% frostblades helm enchant and a 6 link, taking mainly damage nodes in the tree, and I can only hit 40k dps...
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Tzesar escribió:
well melee physical only increases the melee dmg added cold does increase the melee and projectile. well atm i dont have problems with bosses and dps seems ok. i get fuly buffed liek 180k dps tooltip.

my link is like this: FB. multi-coldpen.added cold-wed-critmult.

also i changed for whirling strile to fortify support instead of culling helps alot with survivabilty

think i should get taste of hate next to replace my atziri promise


can you make your character profile public so i can check out your gear and talent tree?
its public now. dont judge to hard its my first character and i just dinged 90 after dieng too often at 99% on 89 xD.

do you have auras activated in youre hideout? and i guess he has the insane DMG helm which comes with a huge penalt of 505 increased phys dmg taken. this thng literaly doubles youre dps. and he uses phys melee dmg which increasses tooltip dmmg alot. but dont forget the priojectile part is not shown in tooltipso youre real dps should be higher.

i have 55k dps in hideoout but fully charged with buffs 180k in combar (have to check for real numbers)
Editado por útlima vez por Tzesar#6682 en 4 abr. 2017 21:00:13
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Tzesar escribió:
its public now. dont judge to hard its my first character and i just dinged 90 after dieng too often at 99% on 89 xD.

do you have auras activated in youre hideout? and i guess he has the insane DMG helm which comes with a huge penalt of 505 increased phys dmg taken. this thng literaly doubles youre dps. and he uses phys melee dmg which increasses tooltip dmmg alot. but dont forget the priojectile part is not shown in tooltipso youre real dps should be higher.

i have 55k dps in hideoout but fully charged with buffs 180k in combar (have to check for real numbers)


^ sounds about right and i dont have the helm enchant my self.
Respecing right now into it and will give it a try i hope its worth it :D

But while respeccing i saw a little tiny "error" in your tree.

If you pick the 6% life node left to the claw nodes (you too 2 life nodes there already) instead of the 5% at the marauder start (behind bravery) you get 1% more life :D

Maybe saves your life one day ^^
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Sidefx06 escribió:
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Tzesar escribió:
its public now. dont judge to hard its my first character and i just dinged 90 after dieng too often at 99% on 89 xD.

do you have auras activated in youre hideout? and i guess he has the insane DMG helm which comes with a huge penalt of 505 increased phys dmg taken. this thng literaly doubles youre dps. and he uses phys melee dmg which increasses tooltip dmmg alot. but dont forget the priojectile part is not shown in tooltipso youre real dps should be higher.

i have 55k dps in hideoout but fully charged with buffs 180k in combar (have to check for real numbers)


^ sounds about right and i dont have the helm enchant my self.


So regular tooltip is 31k, buffed with hatred and herald is 42k, in combat with 9 frenzy charges is 78k, and with 3 more power charges is 88k.

Not sure what I am doing wrong.

My profile is public, so you can see my tree there, and below is my gear:

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