[3.25]g00fy_goober's EleBuzzsaw Deadeye (Easily Clear All Content) *REVAMPED AGAIN*

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schebab7 escribió:

Ele reflect maps are very easy if you have sibyls and the pantheon, no regen is also very easy. And why are you saying claws are mandatory? You get leech with other weapon bases too at the bottom of the tree. In fact foils have a decent amount better dps.

Also, why whirling blades over shield charge? Whirling doesnt scale with movement speed whereas shield charge does.

Also the deceleration enchant provides more dps than ST damage enchant for single target if you hit the boss at the end of the trajectory (due to ST's ability to hit every 0.3 seconds with the same projectile).

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g00fy_goober escribió:

- Leech applies to any weapon yes, but you have to take all the claw nodes to get soul raker so why would you ever use anything else? Swords are inferior to claws in every way. For example the best "sword" you can ever have is a foil. Base is 5.5% crit for 1.6 aps. Imperial claw is best claw base you can have (unless you go Gemini for the mana on hit as well) the base is also 1.6 aps but crit is 6% instead of 5.5%.

- ST% enchant is the one you want

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schebab7 escribió:

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g00fy_goober escribió:

- Leech applies to any weapon yes, but you have to take all the claw nodes to get soul raker so why would you ever use anything else? Swords are inferior to claws in every way. For example the best "sword" you can ever have is a foil. Base is 5.5% crit for 1.6 aps. Imperial claw is best claw base you can have (unless you go Gemini for the mana on hit as well) the base is also 1.6 aps but crit is 6% instead of 5.5%.

- ST% enchant is the one you want

Because swords have higher dps. I've done it in PoB with multiple different claws. It always ends up with a loss in dps even though my sword is t2 lightning, t1 cold and t1 fire with t1 ias, t2 crit multi and mastercrafted crit chance, even 5 t1 imperials ends up with less dps. It's not even a matter of a question for me. I'm also surprised that it is that way, but I don't question numbers. Claws are inferior to foils when it comes to damage.

none of the mirror service claws gave me a dps boost that exists in harbinger and they have better stats than my sword, straight up. you can check PoB for yourself. foil wins in the end.. probably cause of the crit multi and that fatal blade pathing provides more damage than soul raker pathing. the only real upside with claws is that you dont have to take the life/mana leech nodes in the south part of the tree.

ST enchant is less single target dps than the deceleration one. Maybe ST damage enchant is better if you're mapping and you're missing a bit of dps to smooth out map clear, but the deceleration is really just insane for shaper and such things. For a high geared character the ST enchant just doesnt really do anything for you since you will end up one shotting the mobs in the maps anyway (including rares with headhunter) and the only thing 'slowing' you down is the bosses where deceleration wins. At least if you switch to slower proj since it synergises really well with it.

feel free to let me know if you find a claw that gives more damage that exists in let's say harbinger sc. im actually curious where you got the information from that claws are superior in every way

I do however have 16% attack speed with swords and there was one claw with better stats than my sword that gave me 10k dps decrease which might be an upgrade with equivalent claw jewel, but the point being that claw had t1 crit multi, t1 lightning and the rest was the same.
I even had the apropriate claw nodes and PoB still told me it was a dps loss.

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g00fy_goober escribió:

Using POB or in rality foil loses out to claw everytime, unless your crit/multi and tree is completely different. Shaper vs guardian vs other boss, general mapping, however you do it foil is worse by far.

For example take literally 100% perfect foil + 100% perfect claw. Shaper/guardian set, point blank distance on, now I crafted 2 test weapons Imperial claw with 100% perfect stats and jeweled foil with 100% perfect stats. Crit 43.64% effective crit 68.23% (diamond flask is turned on). 261k dps. Change to foil (without changing tree nodes) and it drops to 193k dps.

Now keep in mind this is with claw nodes still, so now take claw nodes with best claw vs sword nodes with sword...

Claw = 261k dps
Sword = 249k dps

Now that is just the claw/sword wheel 5 nodes. So if you take into consideration that if you went swords you would take off claws of the falcon and thus would have 3 extra points to use for the leech nodes the numbers would essentially be just that. Meaning claws are better.

Now again don't get me wrong, im not saying swords are bad/awful by any means, but claws take the cake with the "best".


As for the enchant, turn off GMP and add slower projectiles. With 40% ST enchant your single target dps against shaper/guardian is 364k dps, change enchant too deceleration and you drop to 343k dps. That is a 21k dps loss.

I am not sure if your just overlooking something in POB or what, but you are mistaken on both accounts.

Claws are better than swords
% ST dmg is the enchant you want (this is also reflected in price) that's why deceleration rats nest is like 30-60c and cheapest % ST dmg is like 4ex+

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schebab7 escribió:

Yeah I get opposite numbers but with sword being ahead rather than claw, but our trees are quite different not only the claw/sword nodes and the gear as well. I've been using my own gear/tree and modifying it while comparing.

I don't think you understand how deceleration works, the deceleration enchant doesnt give any paper dps. It's just a damage increase if you position yourself so the boss is at the end of the trajectory with slower proj which PoB cant account for. So putting it into PoB for comparison is pointless.

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ankertest2 escribió:

Hey dude, ill make your build, but have a little trouble. What happened with dps? I have only 27k in hideout, my gear isnt bad, but need little to upgrade. How much dps have you now in this time in hideout? Idk what to do, i understand if dps would be little lower, but I have 2 times less dps... Ill be grateful if you help me. Ty *hate ele builds*