[3.2 Raider - Cyclone] Aggnog's flaming meatball massacre

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sliverlz escribió:

This is my current gear, i'm sitting at 5.7k life @ level 89. I opted for Starkonja's instead of Devoto's Devotion since we get pretty much the same things plus life, while only losing movement speed (wich we already have A LOT) and chaos res (meh).

Cyclone tooltip is at 62k with 9 frenzy charges, and Molten Burst is at 8.6k per ball. Only problem I have right now is capping resists, I have enough fire and lightning res, but I'm sitting at exactly 75% cold resist and thats with 3 endurance charges (12% all res). I have cold resist on all 4 of my rare items and it's still not enough. I'm saving some currency to get a Taste of Haste, but having 75% res all the time, without having to depend on charges and/or flasks would be optimal.

Just curious where you get all the int to use blue gems on such a high level

I crafted int on both rings and sit on around 95 int (this already involves having skilled one 30int node)

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blah2k6 escribió:

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sliverlz escribió:

This is my current gear, i'm sitting at 5.7k life @ level 89. I opted for Starkonja's instead of Devoto's Devotion since we get pretty much the same things plus life, while only losing movement speed (wich we already have A LOT) and chaos res (meh).

Cyclone tooltip is at 62k with 9 frenzy charges, and Molten Burst is at 8.6k per ball. Only problem I have right now is capping resists, I have enough fire and lightning res, but I'm sitting at exactly 75% cold resist and thats with 3 endurance charges (12% all res). I have cold resist on all 4 of my rare items and it's still not enough. I'm saving some currency to get a Taste of Haste, but having 75% res all the time, without having to depend on charges and/or flasks would be optimal.

Just curious where you get all the int to use blue gems on such a high level

I crafted int on both rings and sit on around 95 int (this already involves having skilled one 30int node)

probably Fertile Mind / Brute Force jewel

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sliverlz escribió:

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ccloaded escribió:

HI,

Quick question, If I dont have a Xophs yet should I still be picking up Avatar of fire?

Yes, get AoF and when you get a Xoph's Blood just respec the points. With 100% fire conversion, that fire penetration we get is a HUGE dps boost. You can go by without AoF, but if you can temporarely 'sacrifice' a few points to get it, it's worth it.

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MithrandirTheWhite escribió:

hey man! it's a nice build and i wonder if we can use Ember wake + Taming? if i use them what should i change to maximize the build ?

Elemental Focus won't allow us to ignite anything and it's one of our biggest damage boosts 'support gem wise'. The emberwake+taming combo is best used with Oro's.

@StrayFist

Don't you think flammability is a bit overkill? How is it working out for you?

I'm finding this set up to be amazing. After doing some research on resistance penetration, I found that more is always better.

Reddit Link to How Much Pen is too Much?

A user posted this figure on that link:
"Penetration is exponentially better if the target has greater than 0% resists and penetration is (target takes % more damage) if his resists are lower than 0%

Calculations :

You do 1000 fire dmg.
You penetrate 50% fire resists.
Target 1 has 75% resists (capped).
Target 2 has 0% resists .

In the first scenario where you hit target one :

Target 1 has 75% resists and you penetrate 50% end resists 25%
1000 fire damage x 0.75 = 750 fire dmg
Compared to no penetration
1000 fire damage x 0.25 = 250 fire dmg
50% fire penetration gives you 200% MORE damage

In the second scenario where you hit target two :

Target 2 has 0% resists and you penetrate 50% end resists -50%
1000 fire damage x 1.50 = 1500 fire dmg
Compared to no penetration
1000 fire damage x 1 = 1000 fire dmg
50% fire penetration gives you 50% MORE damage"


The fact of the matter is the more pen you have the MORE damage you do. I'm not using elemental focus in my axe and I don't have any DoT nodes so my ignites are pretty worthless, but it's still slightly more damage. I might switch back to it, but I'm not sure just yet. I don't really have a DPS issue, my issue was doing hard map mods and not living and now at 87 I have just under 6.2k HP.

My build is working for me, but everyone should put their own tweaks on their builds.

@blah2k6

I'm using a Fertile Mind jewel like Icoblablubb said. It will pretty much solve all of your int problems.

@StrayFist

I'll definitely try it, maybe after a couple more levels when I get some more life. Thanks!

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sliverlz escribió:

@StrayFist

I'll definitely try it, maybe after a couple more levels when I get some more life. Thanks!

Yeah, No problem. The life is real low on this build, which is why I've modded my build to include a Kaom's. 6.2k life at 87 is amazing!

how much attack speed you need to have for maximum proc Molten?

@StrayFist
Did u try to drop acrobatics nodes and go for iron reflexes? i think it might be better with kaoms.
And this points u can spend on 3 duelist nodes life+armor+evasion.

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JizaBol escribió:

@StrayFist
Did u try to drop acrobatics nodes and go for iron reflexes? i think it might be better with kaoms.
And this points u can spend on 3 duelist nodes life+armor+evasion.

I'll give that a try when i get home! I will report back here once done.

After doing some tests using Path of Building, looks like with fire pen we already have (axe, amulet, 2 passives) fire pen gem is better than elem focus only if our target have >67% fire res.

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JizaBol escribió:

@StrayFist
Did u try to drop acrobatics nodes and go for iron reflexes? i think it might be better with kaoms.
And this points u can spend on 3 duelist nodes life+armor+evasion.

Well I've done some testing and i must say so far I'm feeling this setup. I did a 2 man party yesterday running some really rippy maps, -max, vuln, extra dmg, double beyond, etc. And i was overall very surprised at how tanky i am/ feel.

I'll link my current gear / flasks and give a brief description of skill dmg / stats.

following the dodge tree I had 46% dodge chance with my Kaom's Heart, 7% Dmg Reduction and roughly 20% evasion chance. After dropping the dodge and grabbing the 3 nodes under duelist for eva+armor I had 6.6k armor (34% dmg reduction) and thats pretty significant. Since our movement speed is already fast I've replaced my movement flask with a granite. I get 16K armor (57% reduction) with that up and it's up almost 24/7.

My DPS on cyclone is about 29k with 8 charges, My Molten Burst is at 8.1k with the same 8 charges.My fire pen with the Wise Oak flask up is 99% + flammability which reduces monster fire resist by 42% atm. that's a combined 141% penetration.

I've so far had no issues dealing with hard hitting mobs, but i'm also running a (oh crap) flask as safety. It full heals my 6k HP should i require it.

Gear + Flasks:


Tree

Overall, I'm super satisfied with how this feels and how my damage hits. I'm grabbing a few axe nodes for damage right now, and will look to see what's best after that!