[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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Draesy escribió:

Hello, can someone look at my char with this build (Draesy). I don't understand how to get this insane dps. I have like 60k barrage on full buff and it is zero dps for lategame bosses. My items not so bad, but i still have like 5-10% of damage shown at video guides. What am i doing wrong?

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Draesy escribió:

Hello, can someone look at my char with this build (Draesy). I don't understand how to get this insane dps. I have like 60k barrage on full buff and it is zero dps for lategame bosses. My items not so bad, but i still have like 5-10% of damage shown at video guides. What am i doing wrong?

we cant see your char, its private

Sorry, now it's open.

oh right, you dont have stun immunity. you must be getting stunlocked all the time. try valyrium ring, if you feel uncomfortable about dps loss, use brinerot boots.

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oh right, you dont have stun immunity. you must be getting stunlocked all the time. try valyrium ring, if you feel uncomfortable about dps loss, use brinerot boots.

I have stun immunity with kiara. It is fine. I'm just asking how to get this damage. I see 271k dmg on screen. I have 0 jevels - it is like 50% dps and some items give maximum 60% dps. bit it is gonna be like 100k on barrage with "perfect" items (which cost like 15-60 ex each btw). I have no idea how to get 250+k. In any way. So that is the problem i asking for help.

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oh right, you dont have stun immunity. you must be getting stunlocked all the time. try valyrium ring, if you feel uncomfortable about dps loss, use brinerot boots.

I have stun immunity with kiara. It is fine. I'm just asking how to get this damage. I see 271k dmg on screen. I have 0 jevels - it is like 50% dps and some items give maximum 60% dps. bit it is gonna be like 100k on barrage with "perfect" items (which cost like 15-60 ex each btw). I have no idea how to get 250+k. In any way. So that is the problem i asking for help.

You're comparing your stats with a broodtwine bow. I even state the offensive stat numbers are using that item. It shows the absolute most DPS you can achieve with this build.

You lack jewels which is a huge source of DPS as well. What is your tooltip fully buffed with your current gear?

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therealjcool escribió:

Blasting,
any input on Witch Occultist temp HC tree would be greatly appreciated :)
Also, why Occultist over, say, Assassin or Trickster for HC?

Thanks

Occultist is great for survival. Her reflect mitigation is amazing, easy access to dual or tri curse even (enfeeble, temp chains, assmark? ele weak? poachers? warlords and drop vitality void?). She generally has higher ES due to the asc then the other stated options.

I feel she's the solid bet for survivability in an HC setting. Not saying assassin or trickster, pathfinder or deadeye etc wouldn't work in that environment though. Just that she IMO is the "tankiest" if done correctly.

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Draesy escribió:

Hello, can someone look at my char with this build (Draesy). I don't understand how to get this insane dps. I have like 60k barrage on full buff and it is zero dps for lategame bosses. My items not so bad, but i still have like 5-10% of damage shown at video guides. What am i doing wrong?

Your items seem quite good, the build is just bad without insane mirrored/legacy 600 DPS bow and gear.

Might be time to cut your losses and just roll another build that can clear faster and kill more bosses with that amount of currency investment.

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Draesy escribió:

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oh right, you dont have stun immunity. you must be getting stunlocked all the time. try valyrium ring, if you feel uncomfortable about dps loss, use brinerot boots.

I have stun immunity with kiara. It is fine. I'm just asking how to get this damage. I see 271k dmg on screen. I have 0 jevels - it is like 50% dps and some items give maximum 60% dps. bit it is gonna be like 100k on barrage with "perfect" items (which cost like 15-60 ex each btw). I have no idea how to get 250+k. In any way. So that is the problem i asking for help.

there is some big hating rant going on about this thread.
@MFJones, we dont care about promoting this build bro, i mean, if people won't ever do this build, this wouldnt change anything for anyone. Blast doesnt care, as a dedicated supporter of the build i don't either. i support that you try to refrain people using this build, that's your view and there are people like you out there who can't make this build work with 80ex, you should represent them and spread your ideas. no problem with that. we need people like you too. keep up the work. all i would like to ask would be that you put arguments when you are critisizing something. that would be better, so if i'm doing a mistake somewhere i can see that too. "this build is shit, it needs 1500ex to work" is not a good argument while there are people who can make the build work with less(they claim so), we need deeper arguments then that i believe.

Draesy,

i'll be frank you about this one,

i think that 271k(almost 4M dps total with point blank x 10 arrows) damage was mine, and it wasnt very much fully buffed.(only auras + some flasks) all the items that i used there were the best in slot items in the game(standard of course) for dps purposes. that char was very squishy, 6.2k life with leg kaoms, also life builds benefit from rat's nest. that makes a 15-20% dps difference. that's how showcasing works, that char wasn't even much viable, that's how i killed shaper first at second day of release but i had to be very careful while playing that char.

while scaling damage, you mostly spend your points to paths to reach the most needed passive nodes, a normal build with 150-170% life has around 20-25 damage nodes total, when you make that char squishy you get around 45-50 damage nodes, and that makes 100% difference.(even more cause buffs buff buffs too, its a logarithmic increase) i had a char with only auras 110k chin sol barrage dps.

60-80k without buffs(just pathfinder ascendancy on flask effect buffs) is enough for this build(enoguh = you can see bosses health drop low rapidly), 100k is top level, 120k is overkill.
80k can be achievable with 20ex weapon + jewels easy peasy. also the difference between 80k build and 120k build is 500ex, 120k barrage vs 145k barrage difference costs like 1500ex more. that's how things go. perfection is something very expensive.

first of all good jewels make big difference,

each jewel is like 7-8% damage buff, and i have 7 while you are using none;



for your gear this tree must be giving more damage with 2x 3-4 mod jewels, i expect something around 10%-15% damage buff, also on top of that you'll get 6 global pen from forces of nature that is directly more than 6% more damage. that makes sth around 20% ddamage buff,

also please get 16% APS enchantment on your boots.

A friend very kindly gave me a Glyph Mark on loan, so I wanted to run with your build to make a GG shaper/guardian farmer. I already have skyforth/legacy vinks, and some nice rares for the build so I think I'm ready to go!

While I'm min/maxxing the setup around my gear, I had a couple of questions for you pros out there:

-If I am stuck with GGGBBR for 1 of my 6Ls (due to Glyph mark), what is the best use of these colors? I currently have GGBBRR on my 6L for barrage, and am using TS on glyph (TS-gmp-ppad-ele focus-phys to light-WED). Any more efficient links for my 6L aoe clear skill? Am not attached to TS and am happy to use LA or SA too.

-Why do we have shock status mod on our crit flask? Don't we already have immunity to our Vinktar's shock via master alchemist? Maybe I am missing something...

-Is onslaught flask with anti bleed really needed/optimal for mapping?

-Taste of hate/atziri flask seem like they would be amazing dps for us (and defense, in the case of legacy taste)... is there really no room?

-How good is mirror arrow? I am considering cutting this to make room for something else...

-And lastly... this is my first ES bower, so I am really not used to running without bloodrage. I can see how bad 4% es degen is for us. Is it just too much to be worth it despite the huge DPS boost?


Thanks in advance for your input! I will post my gear/jewels for feedback in the next day or two as soon as I'm done putting it together.

im not hating i just think the build is shit

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demopolos escribió:

While I'm min/maxxing the setup around my gear, I had a couple of questions for you pros out there:

-If I am stuck with GGGBBR for 1 of my 6Ls (due to Glyph mark), what is the best use of these colors? I currently have GGBBRR on my 6L for barrage, and am using TS on glyph (TS-gmp-ppad-ele focus-phys to light-WED). Any more efficient links for my 6L aoe clear skill? Am not attached to TS and am happy to use LA or SA too.

-Why do we have shock status mod on our crit flask? Don't we already have immunity to our Vinktar's shock via master alchemist? Maybe I am missing something...

-Is onslaught flask with anti bleed really needed/optimal for mapping?

-Taste of hate/atziri flask seem like they would be amazing dps for us (and defense, in the case of legacy taste)... is there really no room?

-How good is mirror arrow? I am considering cutting this to make room for something else...

-And lastly... this is my first ES bower, so I am really not used to running without bloodrage. I can see how bad 4% es degen is for us. Is it just too much to be worth it despite the huge DPS boost?


Thanks in advance for your input! I will post my gear/jewels for feedback in the next day or two as soon as I'm done putting it together.

1. Ele Focus is not recommended for clearing trash. The shatter effect we get from our cold damage prevents things like porcupine quills and detonate dead effects. Also too high damage means more risk of dying to reflect. Try Increased Critical Strikes, Increased Critical Damage, Innervate, Power Charge on Crit. They are the popular choices for that blue slot.

2. Shock immunity is not needed on any flask.

3. I play life based with Master Surgeon instead of Veteran Bowyer, so I already have bleed immunity without relying on a specific flask, but for mapping you definitely want some kind of bleed immunity. The flask type itself is not 100% set in stone though. Go with what you are comfortable with.

4. My flasks are Atziri's Promise, Dying Sun, Vessel of Vinktar, Taste of Hate, Sin's Rebirth (new breach flask) alongside Master Surgeon for bleed immunity. I swap Sin's Rebirth out for my Quicksilver flask whenever I do any super linear outdoor map or any high pack size map with TC. You can definitely make room, is my point.

5. Never used it ever. Never felt like I would need it ever.

6. Can't answer that, never tried ES version.