Thanks for all the testing but could i get any tips/answers for my questions?
I got a reply from stred_ that helped me a little, since i tested the build with lowish gear.
So now i would like to hear what u guys think about investing that 90~ EX to get the best possible outcome in Legacy
@stred/Dice I think for stred that is the expected result of the PoB file for him, because he is focusing more on flat Lightning damage (including Wrath) with his setup. So you will actually see "higher dps" with Death Opus rather than BT.
Stred if hypothetically you had Hatred on and flat Phys (just test and change?) You will see more damage with BT. I test Wrath when I was playing in Standard with Opus, honestly I still prefer Hatred, not being able to consistently shatter is a little scary and if you are abiding by Dice's original analysis that for Harbinger Opal > Diamond > Steel, and Opus Steel > Diamond > Opal then when you get more flat Phys Hatred is still comparable tooltip to Wrath.
Inuitively the Opus ranking seems very reasonable(steel>diamond>opal): When I played around with some usable rings to replace valyrium (for quicksilver->Kiara's in bossfights for example), tis was suprisingly not the case. The best dps gain was from opal's with T1 lightning flat (slightly better than contempt-crafted steel ring). The setup which I used was wrath-discipline as auras, and this skill tree.
The tree is basically a signalshottree cut at lvl 93 but with the ligthning pen - cluster. The dpsgain for those 3 points is roughly the same as the 5pointer for "forces of nature", if the accuracy gain through +20 dex is neglected.
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As for my character progression: haven't changed my gear for a while, not counting a divine on the brinerot's. Wanted to replace this chestpiece
for some time now. Somehow didnt feel like spending a lot of currency on a ok-ish rolled 820-850 ES chest and took a bit of a gamble instead with purchasing a metacraftable 936 ES regalia for 10Ex. If everything works out, it could mean a difference of 4 passive points compared to my current one - imo worth the cost.
The next steps would be to 6l and successfully craft that chest+get two new rings.
Now there are two things I'm somewhat confused about:
a) what are your thoughts about this belt I'm using:
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I got pretty lucky with essencecrafting it, but am missing the flaskmods a bit. Would you consider getting a belt with something like dual res + flask effect duration + crafted wed instead?
b) how are you managing the resistances? I got 77%-74%-77% (uncapped) in merc right now - without the flasks but might drop couple of gear pieces with high res. Is it ok to drop some res. (like 62%-60%-62%) because of wise oak?
Editado por útlima vez por juerk#7020 en 17 abr. 2017 12:22:20
Hi guys, which aura setup is best for this build. I'm seeing people using HoI and HoA or HoI and Hatred. Any advice?
With skyforth , Disciple + Wrath/hatred + HoI
With/o Skyforth Disciple + HoI + HoT
even without skyforths i think its better to spent the 3 skill points for the charisma cluster+enlighten lvl3 to run hatred/wrath and 1 herald for power charge generation..
if have death's opus i seriously suggest to invest in lightning damage so :
wrath+herald of lightning+added lighntning dammage support in your links
Granted the tree could use some tweaks to optimize for Opus (changing some of the phys scaling nodes to WED nodes, since I don't take Forces of nature) and some of the jewels would benefit from swapping the phys damage affixes to damage/proj damage affixes, but I don't anticipate that this will make a huge difference overall - maybe 5-10% more damage. However, speccing into some of the lightning damage nodes that come with penetration could make a big difference - I'll check that out a little later.
Bottom line is that indeed Opus can be a powerhouse with the right set-up :). I still have to test the Lightning penetration gem too. I'll see if I can come up with a much more optimal set up and well compare the calculations by hand with what poB tells us.
Incidentally, here's the above hideout set-up with Thunderfist:
I lose 12% increased attack speed but gain 1-100 lightning damage - I gain more from the flat lightning damage because I have a lot of attack speed scaling on jewels and on rings. The upside to Thunderfist is that it can save exalts if you don't wish to get a linked Opus, or reserve those links for some beastly Ranged Totem set-up. Whether thunderfist is a serious option remains to be seen.
in my setup 5 points for forces of nature is best spent on archiing blows/crackling speed cluster (small difference thought)
also 16% increased Physical Damage with Bows on jewels were far worse than 10% proj.dmg with death'opus and the same with brood twine.
interesting the experiment with thunderfists, i have tried it before after you suggested it but i haven't invested so heavy in lightning damage.. i will try it again.. still in path of building it's equal to a pair of those 15c gloves (accuracy rly helps)
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juerk escribió:
Now there are two things I'm somewhat confused about:
a) what are your thoughts about this belt I'm using:
?
I got pretty lucky with essencecrafting it, but am missing the flaskmods a bit. Would you consider getting a belt with something like dual res + flask effect duration + crafted wed instead?
b) how are you managing the resistances? I got 77%-74%-77% (uncapped) in merc right now - without the flasks but might drop couple of gear pieces with high res. Is it ok to drop some res. (like 62%-60%-62%) because of wise oak?
forget resists! with wise oak i keep em around 50% in town and i am just fine!
for the belt tough choise.. i woulds sell it for a good price and try to find something with flasks mod + wed + some resist..
Editado por útlima vez por stred_#1662 en 17 abr. 2017 13:13:29
Hi guys, which aura setup is best for this build. I'm seeing people using HoI and HoA or HoI and Hatred. Any advice?
With skyforth , Disciple + Wrath/hatred + HoI
With/o Skyforth Disciple + HoI + HoT
even without skyforths i think its better to spent the 3 skill points for the charisma cluster+enlighten lvl3 to run hatred/wrath and 1 herald for power charge generation..
if have death's opus i seriously suggest to invest in lightning damage so :
wrath+herald of lightning+added lighntning dammage support in your links
KK, thx. I got skyforth and legacy Reach. Anyways seen people with Skyforth having Discipline + HoA + Hatred or Discipline + HoA + HoI + CoH + Poachers. Still havent find the reasoning behind these two setup.
Editado por útlima vez por JoopO#1469 en 17 abr. 2017 15:11:40
My single target with Barrage is terrible, feels clunky and is really slow with Death Opus. Do I really need to get +2 proj on helm and maybe use legacy reach?
Your rings are terrible which is a huge damage source. Your gems are ranging from level 12 (?) to 20 with zero quality. You're running completely different gem setups then in guide for auras, and tree looks about 70% of whats used in guide.
I'd recommend following the tree/guide more closely, sorting your rings out (using headhunter over having decent jewelry is absurd). Getting the correct boot enchant (aps one seems to be ideal for you) and buying actual 20/20 gems before mentioning how your dps is clunky/slow.
You're right. I really need to improve rings but as I stated. I need the resist on them. I got a legacy reach so from now I will try to upgrade the rings/gloves and we will see what will happen. Damage wise with the gems I have now the DPS is pretty solid.
Trying to figure out the optimal links for 6l Reach. LA - WED - INC CRIT STRIKES - PHYS PROJ DMG? - Faster Attacks? - ADDED FIRE?
Editado por útlima vez por snatat#5114 en 17 abr. 2017 16:51:57
My single target with Barrage is terrible, feels clunky and is really slow with Death Opus. Do I really need to get +2 proj on helm and maybe use legacy reach?
Your rings are terrible which is a huge damage source. Your gems are ranging from level 12 (?) to 20 with zero quality. You're running completely different gem setups then in guide for auras, and tree looks about 70% of whats used in guide.
I'd recommend following the tree/guide more closely, sorting your rings out (using headhunter over having decent jewelry is absurd). Getting the correct boot enchant (aps one seems to be ideal for you) and buying actual 20/20 gems before mentioning how your dps is clunky/slow.
You're right. I really need to improve rings but as I stated. I need the resist on them. I got a legacy reach so from now I will try to upgrade the rings/gloves and we will see what will happen. Damage wise with the gems I have now the DPS is pretty solid.
Trying to figure out the optimal links for 6l Reach. LA - WED - INC CRIT STRIKES - PHYS PROJ DMG? - Faster Attacks? - ADDED FIRE?
For Added lightning and cold im not sure if they are the best to use. The other options are faster attacks and PPAD. Just try them and see what you like best. But i would stick with the core of LA + WED + Pierce +Inc Crit Skrikes.
