[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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hupple escribió:

I am playing a CI Doomfletch Inquisitor now and thinking of trying this build with Reach to compare (with same gears except bow and quiver). With Reach, +1 signal increased the number of arrows from 10 to 11 normally and 13 to 14 with dying sun which is not that huge so I would give it the lowest priority considering how expensive it is...

Other than +1, is the following best vaal?

No, its pointless if you already have 100% conversion. Non legacy reach would give you way less damage than what you can do with doomfletch inquisitor, though.

what u would suggest for next upgrade ?

Glove > Rumis ( 35 + / 15+ ) > Helm > Jewelery


sadly no acc, probably going to craft soon my gloves with chaos spam so i get the acc roll + nice es, dont realy need the res on it

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Rivx escribió:

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hupple escribió:

I am playing a CI Doomfletch Inquisitor now and thinking of trying this build with Reach to compare (with same gears except bow and quiver). With Reach, +1 signal increased the number of arrows from 10 to 11 normally and 13 to 14 with dying sun which is not that huge so I would give it the lowest priority considering how expensive it is...

Other than +1, is the following best vaal?

No, its pointless if you already have 100% conversion. Non legacy reach would give you way less damage than what you can do with doomfletch inquisitor, though.

OK. I do have legacy Reach in standard but have wasted maybe 2000 fus on it...
I will try this build when breach league ends then.

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hupple escribió:

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Rivx escribió:

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hupple escribió:

I am playing a CI Doomfletch Inquisitor now and thinking of trying this build with Reach to compare (with same gears except bow and quiver). With Reach, +1 signal increased the number of arrows from 10 to 11 normally and 13 to 14 with dying sun which is not that huge so I would give it the lowest priority considering how expensive it is...

Other than +1, is the following best vaal?

No, its pointless if you already have 100% conversion. Non legacy reach would give you way less damage than what you can do with doomfletch inquisitor, though.

OK. I do have legacy Reach in standard but have wasted maybe 2000 fus on it...
I will try this build when breach league ends then.

well you could swap out Phy to light for crit chance, because you already got 100% convert

50% quiver
20% quiver ( corruption )
20% Vinktar flask ( but you loose 10% pen )
+ 10% becsaue of Pathfinder with vinktar
==== 100% so just swap out one gem, not rly sure if it's worth it too :D

Guys, build is based on LEECH - 20 or 30% of lightning damage leeched as life during flask effect. If you have 100% fire damage, how much lightning damage you leech? Zero. If you get all the leech points you have only 2-2.5% leech which is not enough to kill Shaper. Hope you understand why you can't go fire path.

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Guys, build is based on LEECH - 20 or 30% of lightning damage leeched as life during flask effect. If you have 100% fire damage, how much lightning damage you leech? Zero. If you get all the leech points you have only 2-2.5% leech which is not enough to kill Shaper. Hope you understand why you can't go fire path.

Yes. That's why I think this 20% lightning conversion is somehow good. With it, conversion part would not be 50 fire 50 lightning, it will be 5/12 fire, 7/12 lightning, so more leech from vinktar.

One more question, I have legacy vinktar in standard, I am pretty sure I can maintain it easily during mapping so no need for duelist leech node. But what about shaper? With the changes to flask generation, can I still rely purely on vinktar?

Hey Cap, can you update the first post with your current gear? Your profile has been private for a few days now, right as I start following the build. You've mentioned switching some gems around recently and I was curious about the current setup. I feel like you're probably on a crystal belt by now as well. The original guide post seems pretty out of date...

Also, any opinions on steel vs opal vs diamond rings? I'm starting out on an 8.7 base crit bow so I feel like I really need the diamonds.

Thanks!

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hupple escribió:

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Piftiuta escribió:

Guys, build is based on LEECH - 20 or 30% of lightning damage leeched as life during flask effect. If you have 100% fire damage, how much lightning damage you leech? Zero. If you get all the leech points you have only 2-2.5% leech which is not enough to kill Shaper. Hope you understand why you can't go fire path.

Yes. That's why I think this 20% lightning conversion is somehow good. With it, conversion part would not be 50 fire 50 lightning, it will be 5/12 fire, 7/12 lightning, so more leech from vinktar.

One more question, I have legacy vinktar in standard, I am pretty sure I can maintain it easily during mapping so no need for duelist leech node. But what about shaper? With the changes to flask generation, can I still rely purely on vinktar?

wtf ? it's 50 / 50 and not 5/12 like you postes



50 % fire base quiver
20% light ( from corruption on quiver )
20 % ( + 10 % ) because you need a conversion vinktar, so you loose the 15 % pen on lighting ( which isnt so important because u deal only 1/3 of your dmg as lighting, atleast i do it )

and a +1 arrow singalfire in standart is alone 70-80 ex


but yeah you loose 25 EXTRA dmg as lighting dmg but you gain 2 % base crit, which is huge aswell on REach bow :/


i think its weaker overall, but alot cheaper ( atleast in standart ^^ )




/E: i dont think you can maintain vinktar ( 100% of the time ), with the pathfinder crit nodes + The Overflowing Chalice , but aslong you deal enough dmg it doesnt matter ^^

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Nickoladze escribió:

Hey Cap, can you update the first post with your current gear? Your profile has been private for a few days now, right as I start following the build. You've mentioned switching some gems around recently and I was curious about the current setup. I feel like you're probably on a crystal belt by now as well. The original guide post seems pretty out of date...

Also, any opinions on steel vs opal vs diamond rings? I'm starting out on an 8.7 base crit bow so I feel like I really need the diamonds.

Thanks!

Hi Nickoladze,

I have my profile private as I'm currently working on an EK build guide that's been requested since 2.4. Finally getting around to it. Sadly I've had to borrow some of the gear from signalshot for said build so a public profile wouldn't be much of a help for you.

I'll update the main post with my current personal gem setup changes within the day (currently at work).

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Guys, build is based on LEECH - 20 or 30% of lightning damage leeched as life during flask effect. If you have 100% fire damage, how much lightning damage you leech? Zero. If you get all the leech points you have only 2-2.5% leech which is not enough to kill Shaper. Hope you understand why you can't go fire path.

I don't see anybody suggesting going 100% fire conversion, and you can't do it anyway without AoF which is like 8 points away.

Btw 2% leech is enough to facetank Shaper's beam.

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hupple escribió:

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Piftiuta escribió:

Guys, build is based on LEECH - 20 or 30% of lightning damage leeched as life during flask effect. If you have 100% fire damage, how much lightning damage you leech? Zero. If you get all the leech points you have only 2-2.5% leech which is not enough to kill Shaper. Hope you understand why you can't go fire path.

Yes. That's why I think this 20% lightning conversion is somehow good. With it, conversion part would not be 50 fire 50 lightning, it will be 5/12 fire, 7/12 lightning, so more leech from vinktar.

One more question, I have legacy vinktar in standard, I am pretty sure I can maintain it easily during mapping so no need for duelist leech node. But what about shaper? With the changes to flask generation, can I still rely purely on vinktar?

Sure you will have more lightning damage, but when Vinktar is up you're leeching to full with every hit anyway. The only benefit is that you get more lightning penetration I guess.