GhazzyTV - Beginner's Build: Lich Queen Skeleton Summoner [AWAKENER FARMABLE]

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ol_baid escribió:
How does it work for you? Do you use mage skellies or melee skellies?
I made the experience that too many melee minions are blocking each other, thus can not attack and just wait in second row. For mapping this might not be an issue, but for boss encounters (where you want the damage gain) it actually can be a problem.
I did Hydra once with Montregul's Grasp, once with United in Dream, and the DPS was worse with United in Dream bc of the said issue.

You can check my profile too, but I use melee skellies. They tend to all stack on each other and wail away at bosses, they don't seem to hitbox push each other out like in say, FFXIV. I'll pay attention more and see if its causing an issue.

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AiMBOYrEE escribió:
Wow this is amazing guess it's hard to balance all the other res without 1 ring. i wonder if it's worth getting flesh binder ascendancy and get minion life for zombies.

I've managed to balance my res (not for ele weakness unfortunately), without brightbeak on, so I can safely swap to Severed In Sleep bosses where I don't need the mobility. I've been going back and forth on whether to take Flesh Binder over Soul Weaver, but that will take a bit more than some quick maths. I just have a gut feeling that committing that much to the zombies would require me to allocate more resources to them to make it worth, such as dropping Vis Mortis (since I'm clearly not stacking spectre damage anymore), dropping my SG/TV shaped helms for something more supportive of zombies, and putting the spectre setup in the hungry loop (oboy another expensive task).

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AiMBOYrEE escribió:
Also what is better for jewels taunt or blind on hit for minions? so "% minion damage if you used a minion skill recently + blind on hit + minion cold damage" or something like that?

Optimally both. I only have a taunt one atm, and it's pretty awesome (as long as you watch bosses with directional abilities so you don't shield charge into them by accident being so used to playing "alone" builds). I try and go for life/minion damage on skill + taunt/blind.

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ejester escribió:
I bought one of these rings today and I am wondering what I should use in it. I am following the guide, using the mage skeletons / spectres / zombies. Keeping that in mind, what would be a good link setup to use the ring for? I figure since we are using an unset ring anyways for convocation on this insanely socket starved build, why not try to free up as many sockets as possible.

A good link setup would be whichever of those 3 minion types don't have at least a 5L supporting them.
Editado por útlima vez por Lurel#3589 en 29 mar. 2018 10:56:49
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Lurel escribió:
Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..



Oooo.... I like that. I might try to build one to support my Vaal Summon Skeletons gem after I finish getting the rest of my gear put together. :)
i wonder if we use something like this instead of brightbeak
without the extra fire damage ( because of EE ) and socket our boots into that we could run aura in the boots with enlighten and maybe try to get another aura in there or something ? or a curse
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AiMBOYrEE escribió:
i wonder if we use something like this instead of brightbeak
without the extra fire damage ( because of EE ) and socket our boots into that we could run aura in the boots with enlighten and maybe try to get another aura in there or something ? or a curse

Behemoth maces can get around 35% attack speed, so that's down 15 from brightbeak already. Furthermore, you lose out on a 21/20 faster attacks gem, bringing you to a total of -26% - -30% aspd. The auras/curse would be nice, but I already feel slow as is. Not sure if I'd be able to deal with being even slower.
I just watched some video with pure skeletons build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy4gM_AFWWk

The guy killed uber elder with Tabula, tree is different than in this build. Do you guys think this can be better for bosskilling?

Im still leveling my summoner (69 lvl atm) so respec is not a problem, Im not sure what to follow atm, Ghazzy PoB looks a bit different than his profile but my main concern is what could be better/easier for bosses like guardians, uber atziri, shaper red elder and uber elder.
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Asag escribió:
I just watched some video with pure skeletons build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy4gM_AFWWk

The guy killed uber elder with Tabula, tree is different than in this build. Do you guys think this can be better for bosskilling?

Im still leveling my summoner (69 lvl atm) so respec is not a problem, Im not sure what to follow atm, Ghazzy PoB looks a bit different than his profile but my main concern is what could be better/easier for bosses like guardians, uber atziri, shaper red elder and uber elder.

They have about double my skele damage, but I have stacked spectres that won't have death downtime, and zombies to make up for that. I'm working on getting an uber elder kill, but rng is killing me for landing elder on t14/15.
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Mad_Mike escribió:
I'm wondering what a max block variant of this build would feel like? Anyone have some insight on this? Like less life, but 75% block/spell block. Seems like it'd be much tankier, especially vs. bosses/uber elder.


Hey! I recently messed around with getting some block going. Here is some of my thoughts.

1. Mistress of Sacrifice + Bone Offering.
2. Advancing Fortress.
3. Rumi's Concoction.
4. Shaper Neck with #% block applied to spells.
5. Reckless defense jewel(s).
6. Obviously start with a shield with high block.

Should be able to get 75/75 even without Rumi's up.

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Ghazzy escribió:
Stuff


Hey Ghazzy so I am 156/157. Tried Hall of the Grandmasters and failed miserably. Going to switch things up and go for a more defensive + burning setup to kill the max block guys I think next. Really want to thank you for this build and the effort you go into updating this thread.

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Asag escribió:
I just watched some video with pure skeletons build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy4gM_AFWWk

The guy killed uber elder with Tabula, tree is different than in this build. Do you guys think this can be better for bosskilling?

Im still leveling my summoner (69 lvl atm) so respec is not a problem, Im not sure what to follow atm, Ghazzy PoB looks a bit different than his profile but my main concern is what could be better/easier for bosses like guardians, uber atziri, shaper red elder and uber elder.


Better is a tough word to throw around in PoE. There is pros and cons of course but this Necro variant has killed Uber Elder as well and lots of people in this thread have killed them many times. If you are interested in pure skeletons there is a great guide for that over here.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2109541

If you are looking for pure spectre maybe try this guide over here.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1971585
Pure Spectre vs Uber Elder video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgSr_Vpr5SI
Editado por útlima vez por Idyar#1105 en 29 mar. 2018 17:02:24
I see mentions of using severed in sleep over brightbeak for extra damage. Wouldn't the scourge be better for pure dps? Or am I overlooking something about severed in sleep? Thanks.
Ghazzy, are u still playing this build?

In your profile there is only 82 necr in BHC.

Wanna more videos with bosses (without other players of course!)
Can someone advise me what to do/change in my character. Its first high level so im not sure if i did all right :) Some advises to improve it etc. It feels really nice, but not enough tanky probably. Where i can get more HP maybe? Any advices, can be very helpful, Thank you.

Other question is. I notice Ghazzy used Orb of Storms lvl1 gem. I have no idea what for this thing actually. I tried to read wiki but still no idea why lvl1 and why on necro.

And probably this is for main topic. Since im very new, not all things was obvious and some of them i learn really late )
1 - Spectres. In many guides told that you need to raise spectres in highest lvl area you can, and preferably use Solar Guards. But they are lvl 60 max... They die super fast when you do mapping. I realise too late that i can desecrate them in any lvl area. + i learned really really late that i can use A key for choose what corpse to raise. It would be very helpful for new playes if you add 1-2 lines little explanation of this things in main thread.
2 - Animate guardian. Same thing as with spectres. I understand very late that he doesnt have to fight etc. So i couldnt understand why to use him at all, if he do nothing almost. )

I have no idea how i did uber lab without this knowledge at all. I used random rare items for AG and random Spectres. So that could be very helpful for newbies like me if we read this in the guide. But anycase, people will learn it anyway or can ask. )

Thank you guys and Ghazzy for helping up! Great build, very happy that pick this one as my 1st in PoE :)

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