RANGER FACEBREAKER - CRIT
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so i was looking up the facebreaker infernal blow build because people told me about it and i ended up finding your build instead, which honestly sounds pretty cool haha, but i was just wondering for the chest piece, if were already so glass cannon, why not make it a bit more glass cannon and go with a Daresso's Defiance Full Dragonscale? youll be killing like crazy anyways and gain endurance charges from it, and in the off chance you do get hit, itll turn those charges into onslaught for even more damage and speed. Also another question, how is this build with accuracy/chance to hit? my first character i did blind and it was a crazy fast attack speed/crit barrage archer, i personally called it a machine gun build, and with king of the hill i was having fun literally pinning bosses into walls with the crits that they couldnt move at all, but my problem was accuracy, i had a 70% chance to hit (which didnt matter too much when i was shooting about 30 arrows a sec) but how does this build deal with that?
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" Hi bro. Daresso's is a good suggestion but I think it is only worthwile if you want to add some Endurance Charges to the build, as we can already get Onslaught from Raider (yes it is "on kill" Onslaught but for regular map clearing it will nearly always be on). In terms of accuracy, right now I am using Lycosidae Shield which gives me 100% accuracy chance to hit which is great for a crit build. Without Lycosidae I was at 89% accuracy at level 93 and this is because this build stacks a lot of dex for the Pugilist jewels, so I reach over 400 dexterity and several of the nodes we take for dex also have accuracy buffs. Also in terms of glass cannon - you don't need to play this build like I do. Several people have customized to their own tankier versions running things like Kaom's (and using 4L for something like Shield Charge since the damage is already so high), Arctic Armor and Fortify. In all honesty you don't need 2mm DPS on this build for regular maps. So there is room to give up lots of DPS and drop to say 300k and invest more in defensive nodes and gear. |
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This is an awesome build for facebreaker and I can't wait to get started with it!
I had a couple questions though. With MDOFL and Lycosidae, do you get enough ES too benefit from MDOFL? It seems that you don't fully get the bonus damage since there doesnt seem to be a lot of ES in your gear. Would swapping to another support gem increase dps? Also, what gem set would you replace for a 4L aoe skill + 6L frenzy build in your current gear. I was thinking the boot slot since it that seems to be for your defensive options but wanted to get your take on it. Editado por útlima vez por dxy#1151 en 1 sept. 2017 9:58:59
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" Thanks bud. Damage on Full Life gem does not need ES to work - just your life needs to be at full, which is why we take Vaal Pact so we can leech instantly back to full HP in the event we take damage and get back to full life. However it will not work if you stand in degen, as Vaal Pact changes your leech to discrete instances so you cannot stay at full life unlike if you had continuous leech if you stand in degen. Either way, Damage on Full Life adds another multiplier to the build so it is a big damage increase and is worth it. If you want to add a 4L AOE yes you can take out boot gems, just take out the two Vaal Graces. I carry 3 Vaal Grace (the other is in the shield), and I only ever just use 1 even for T16s. |
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You have a PoB link of this build? I want to crank out some numbers on a doryani's fist with maybe a slightly modified version of this build.
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" Hi bud, here's my current setup I am playing, hope it helps:
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Also I happened to theorycraft a crit Doryani build but couldn't get the DPS as high as I wanted (ended up at 450k, was hoping for around 750k+ AOE). Didn't finish and lost interest but maybe you'll have better luck (needs more attack speed):
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Hey i put your build into path of building and i got 159% life from tree. used a belly and some life you have on your stuff and all i seem to get is 3200 life and 4.5k am i missing something?
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Alright thanks!
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Was considering various ways to deal with reflect on this character, since during Legacy I pretty much one shot myself on random reflect rares and because I'm too blind (lazy) to be able to see reflect mob rare effects and take special care for reflect mobs.
Not too sure on how reflect proof this build is cause I'm not too sure on how the math works on reflect. Like if i hit for 250k a hit and then the mob reflects 15% phys, I'm taking 37k dmg and I don't see myself surviving that in any way, but I'm pretty sure there's something I'm missing so :| Anyways, first thing I actually thought about was using Scion with slayer/raider or slayer/assassin since you have guaranteed frenzy charge generation on bosses w/ frenzy and with a similar tree i reached like ~80-85% percent of the original dps with a similar tree for shaper dps with slayer/raider. I think i had ~90% of the original dps with assassin notable using the current facebreakers, unless I'm missing setting. Feels like I should have lower but I had crazy high crit chance in PoB so maybe that's why. Though I ended up using almost all of the leftover passive points in the PoB you gave me. Though the build might feel quite different compared to the original build's Bruce Lee level fisting, which I'm still trying to keep. The build becomes even more crit focused, though whether or not that's a good thing or a bad thing, idk. Still wasn't able to add more life to the build which I feel might be very inconvenient since Izaro one shots us if he gets lucky iirc. But then I thought about Yugul notable which gives 25% reduced(i think it's reduced?) reflected dmg taken, and then just using a 4l infernal blow mapping setup, which given this builds insane dps should hopefully(?) again not too experienced in reflect dmg calculations, should be fine for mapping and surviving that random 1 reflect rare with vaal pact? I know some people said vaal pact should be enough to mitigate phys reflect but again, not too sure on what they say. Might be able to run a phys reflect map with infernal blow since infernal blow is 50% converted to fire which layered with Yugul's pantheon, might be enough? Not too sure on inferno blow's single target dmg but also not confident enough to straight up attack reflect map with frenzy. But then you run into the problem of ele reflect which could possibly kill you with the inferno blow explosion? Not sure if the explosion can be reflected or not. Again, these are all just some theoretical ideas based on a possibly grossly overestimated dmg of phys reflect. I know reflect can get dodged (not sure if it can be evaded, pretty sure no) with capped dodge you could technically sustain hitting reflect mobs with frenzy assuming that you have enough leech to not instagib yourself and you don't get unlucky enough to not dodge reflect like 4x in a row although in theory a cwdt immortal call set up should prevent that from happening. Just trying to reduce the weaknesses of this build cause I really like how this build feels in general, but this might also just be me being retarded. :| On a side note: considered switching the build to slayer because gets impact which means free melee splash so pretty much running a 5l/7l set up, and then you get the added survivability of slayer leech and reflect notables, but not sure if I can achieve high enough dmg with slayer since slayer ascendancies don't have any single target scaling except for that 20% more multi on kill which doesn't work for bosses which don't summon adds :|. Also managed to get doryani's touch to ~600k shaper with conc effect and flasks. Not sure if that's high enough. Still trying out new pathes. Resists get easier since you can replace meginords with doryani's invitation and get similar/better damage. Could use a kaom's as defensive chestpiece, though that would be really expensive. Not sure what else to put on the chest. Could set up a comk shield charge shock nova that i saw on a berserker build. Also could probably just put an ancenstral warchief there. Editado por útlima vez por SilverXa#6198 en 5 sept. 2017 21:11:28
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