[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice EleRaider - Viable for Everything

Here's an advantage that the Scion has over the Witch that might become more important in 2.4: the Scion uses 1 less gem (1 golem instead of 2; you don't really need a support for it). And that allows you to add Enhance to your curse link as a luxury upgrade (6L). For example, I use this on my Scion in Standard:


It was mostly for fun since everything was already slow enough. But now that bosses mitigate curses harder, that extra 24q might just start to matter a lot. We'll see.

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Kelvynn escribió:

Here's an advantage that the Scion has over the Witch that might become more important in 2.4: the Scion uses 1 less gem (1 golem instead of 2; you don't really need a support for it). And that allows you to add Enhance to your curse link as a luxury upgrade (6L). For example, I use this on my Scion in Standard:

It was mostly for fun since everything was already slow enough. But now that bosses mitigate curses harder, that extra 24q might just start to matter a lot. We'll see.

Your Witch thread has these links:

5L: CWDT (lv 1) - Ball Lightning (lv 4) - Curse of Hit (20/20) - Enfeeble (lv 20) - Temporal Chains (lv 20).

4L: Enlighten - Blasphemy - Warlord's Mark - Discipline or Arctic Armor.

4L: CWDT - Immortal Call - Summon Flame Golem - Summon Lightning Golem.

3L: Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Fortify.

so you could add Enchance as 6L even there with 2 golems, isn't it?

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Ksakep escribió:

Your Witch thread has these links:

5L: CWDT (lv 1) - Ball Lightning (lv 4) - Curse of Hit (20/20) - Enfeeble (lv 20) - Temporal Chains (lv 20).

4L: Enlighten - Blasphemy - Warlord's Mark - Discipline or Arctic Armor.

4L: CWDT - Immortal Call - Summon Flame Golem - Summon Lightning Golem.

3L: Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Fortify.

so you could add Enchance as 6L even there with 2 golems, isn't it?

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Remaining sockets: Arctic Armor or Discipline, Orb of Storms.

You still need to put those somewhere. One goes into the 6th (unlinked) socket in the chest armor, one into the 4th socket in the gloves/boots.

I would really like to start Essence league with this build, you think it's possible? I believe it will not be easy to get an Astramentis before level 33 in the new league...

Thanks!

Just use any ammy with Int at the start, Astramentis will come later

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Kelvynn escribió:

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Ksakep escribió:

Your Witch thread has these links:

5L: CWDT (lv 1) - Ball Lightning (lv 4) - Curse of Hit (20/20) - Enfeeble (lv 20) - Temporal Chains (lv 20).

4L: Enlighten - Blasphemy - Warlord's Mark - Discipline or Arctic Armor.

4L: CWDT - Immortal Call - Summon Flame Golem - Summon Lightning Golem.

3L: Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Fortify.

so you could add Enchance as 6L even there with 2 golems, isn't it?

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Remaining sockets: Arctic Armor or Discipline, Orb of Storms.

You still need to put those somewhere. One goes into the 6th (unlinked) socket in the chest armor, one into the 4th socket in the gloves/boots.

Hmmmm... so what if we put Orb of Storms INSTEAD of Ball Lightning, will it be ok to proc curses or not?

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EFazzaD escribió:

I would really like to start Essence league with this build, you think it's possible? I believe it will not be easy to get an Astramentis before level 33 in the new league...

Thanks!

You can get by with a high Int/Str/AllStat amulet for leveling (Int is everything for this build and some Str will be required for the red gems too). But I don't think anybody knows how hard it will be to find WI in this league.

Lightning Tendrils is actually not that bad for leveling. You can get pretty far with it just by leveling the gems and adding more support while waiting on the WI to come along. Don't switch to CI without WI, of course.

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Ksakep escribió:

Hmmmm... so what if we put Orb of Storms INSTEAD of Ball Lightning, will it be ok to proc curses or not?

That's not a good solution for ranged attackers and bosses that move a lot. But yes, it could be an option for specific bosses. Problem with that is that Enhance and Ball Lightning are different colors. The optimal setup for the gloves and boots uses 3 off-colored sockets in each (which is going to get a whole lot cheaper in 2.4 thanks to the Vorici change, but still 120 chroms), so changing colors often would be too expensive.

Anyway, that's a Witch-specific issue. If it becomes a problem, we'll look for a solution in the Witch thread.

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Kelvynn escribió:

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EFazzaD escribió:

I would really like to start Essence league with this build, you think it's possible? I believe it will not be easy to get an Astramentis before level 33 in the new league...

Thanks!

You can get by with a high Int/Str/AllStat amulet for leveling (Int is everything for this build and some Str will be required for the red gems too). But I don't think anybody knows how hard it will be to find WI in this league.

Lightning Tendrils is actually not that bad for leveling. You can get pretty far with it just by leveling the gems and adding more support while waiting on the WI to come along. Don't switch to CI without WI, of course.

I hope that the price of WI do not get much more expensive than it is today.
Thanks for your help!

For anyone interested in wanting to make this your first character this league, here's my way of leveling in HC. For those that like to level as soon as possible as the build that they're playing, this won't be for you, but it is one potential alternative if you are set on making this your first char.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1627595/page/32/#p13363649


I posted this a little while back and is linked in the FAQ section. It's a twinked way of leveling, but the same skill tree still applies. You can use almost any skill like to level. For a new league I'd probably mule a Fire Trap from a shadow and then leveling with FT/Tendrils, then switch to Firestorm at lvl 12, then Bladefall at 28. Stats will be a little tricky w/o having an Astramentis to equip early on, but it's doable if you pick up the 30 str/30 dex nodes and don't mind using a few regrets.

Hope it helps ! I usually start new leagues playing a regular Firestorm build that has 240% life and 0 gear requirements to build a pile of currency and also new character twink gear for future characters, then make a second character for WI. Still my favorite build in the game, hopefully WIs will stay relatively cheap !