[2.1] SuperNova - 200k+ AoE dps ! Insane clear speed - Super fun - Atziri viable | Featured by GGG!

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aMIgolala escribió:

So, u dropped herald of lightning?
Took ice bites and clarity instead...
Im using ur build now and im at lvl86 now,,
I only have a 5L PoH,
Mayb clarity is what im lacking, always ran out of mana when i deal with single target bosses..
While switched to flame surge, warlords does help abit, but will still ran out once in a while..

Oh yea, forgot to thank you previously on the dual curse question, thanks once again:)

Hey man sure! feel free to ask anything.

As for Herald of Lightning, its around 2k dps gain and takes alot of our mana pool. Completely not worth it.
Clarity instead, is doing a great job for us.
I just remind you again that if you fight against single target boss / mob make sure to re-curse him every few seconds (our curses are around 4.5seconds at the end so need to re-curse pretty often).

and yes Ice bite linked to Herald of Ice grants us frenzy charges and they are awesome for us :) Just need Ice bite to be high quality and high level to ease our time recharging the frenzy.

No matter, if you use the Pledge of Hands or an Taryns as staff, but specially with the 2nd option:

Did you already try to replace added cold damage with Hypothermia?
I gives us 35 % more damage after the 1st Nova and adds a nice 10% chill bonus?
Combined with Taryn we should have a very high free chance (i also think cold to fire won't be that effective with Taryn's due to the bonus on cold damage, i would go for cold penetration instead)

I played this build on warbands with a 5l pledge and a 5l carcass and it was incredible strong.
Only some high map bosses were a pain, but i really loved the fast map clearing speed even on lvl 77 + maps , combined with a lot of IIR

A very nice alternative to carcass jack would be Daressos Defiance, but try to get the right colours on it ... you'll be getting poor ^^

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tsachiy1 escribió:

I just remind you again that if you fight against single target boss / mob make sure to re-curse him every few seconds (our curses are around 4.5seconds at the end so need to re-curse pretty often).

Why not using faster casting instead of reduced duration on a 5 link?
Is it so much slower?

Don't forget using an Quicksilver flask during fighting will increase the warping speed by a lot!

@Pupalaka, If you played this build you should certainly know that we do not need a dps boost against chilled enemies because the enemies are wiped too quickly.
it will be rather useless to us and also dps loss overall regardless to the fact I mentioned.
Another tested fact: Cold penetration is dps loss compared to Cold to Fire (although there's 'hidden' dps boost cuz penetration).

Taryn's is not the ultimate staff for this build so I dont wan't to go into the depth of how can we benefit from this staff, but if you find a good alternative with it that has been tested and worked great, please do share so other people can read and think about trying it aswell.

faster warping is greater than longer curse time since warping is our main mobility skill that is also affecting our survivability (imagine 3 packs, if u warp fast and clear them you'll leech faster than having longer warp time).

I remember testing it and less duration grants us better cast speed for L.Warp, but if you tried faster casting and you ok with it so sure u can do it. I'll just say again that the speed of L.Warp is the core of this build.


Then again, its all stuff that I have checked and decided which is better, it doesnt mean ur ideas are bad, on the contrary they make a lot of sense and can be usable, it just won't be the most ideal way.

Noted.

I believe you, when you say Cold to Fire is more DPS; as i don't know that much of the game mechanics yet.
-> i am currently playing with a 5l Taryns (just due to budget, i can't play that much in the 1month league, currently farming this build with Item Rarity)
I learned that Ice Nova / FC / Echo / Cold to Fire / Item rarity is better, even without added cold damage.

Regarding the warping speed i think it's all a matter of taste, as i said, when i drink the quicksilver flask (which recharges very quickly), i warp very fast even without reduced duration.

Last league I was facing some problems with physical damage (can't effort a lighting coil right now), what brought me the idea to try a tripple curse version (using Windscream), adding enfeeble on top.
I'll let you know the result soonest

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Pupalaka escribió:

Noted.

I believe you, when you say Cold to Fire is more DPS; as i don't know that much of the game mechanics yet.
-> i am currently playing with a 5l Taryns (just due to budget, i can't play that much in the 1month league, currently farming this build with Item Rarity)
I learned that Ice Nova / FC / Echo / Cold to Fire / Item rarity is better, even without added cold damage.

Regarding the warping speed i think it's all a matter of taste, as i said, when i drink the quicksilver flask (which recharges very quickly), i warp very fast even without reduced duration.

Last league I was facing some problems with physical damage (can't effort a lighting coil right now), what brought me the idea to try a tripple curse version (using Windscream), adding enfeeble on top.
I'll let you know the result soonest

Aight, u can take any build to ur own variation and its completely fine ;p
but keep in mind that using Windscream for Enfeeble isntead of Atziri's step will cause the enemies to deal less dmg and crits to you but on the other hand you lose defense because you won't have the defensive benefits of Atziri's step.

If you're playing with passive tree of phase #2, I really find Atziri's step important ;p

As for physical issues, well Arctic armour can cover that along with Jade flask for extra evasion.

Hi, first of, awesome build! I'm currently level 73 in the 1 month league, using Taryns. I have ~3,6k HP and have ~9k DPS with nova. My problem is while farming dried lake is really easy and destroys every normal mob, the beyond mobs that spawn are a problem. Especially the unique beyond bosses, but also the unwavering mobs, have good chances to kill me.

So I respect many points to hit Vaal Pact. It seems to work better but I still die often. I think the problem is being stunned and unable to warp/nova/leech, which results in a death.

Any ideas how to fix it? Maybe using Eye of Chayula, even if it lowers my HP ?

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Mutalisk escribió:

Hi, first of, awesome build! I'm currently level 73 in the 1 month league, using Taryns. I have ~3,6k HP and have ~9k DPS with nova. My problem is while farming dried lake is really easy and destroys every normal mob, the beyond mobs that spawn are a problem. Especially the unique beyond bosses, but also the unwavering mobs, have good chances to kill me.

So I respect many points to hit Vaal Pact. It seems to work better but I still die often. I think the problem is being stunned and unable to warp/nova/leech, which results in a death.

Any ideas how to fix it? Maybe using Eye of Chayula, even if it lowers my HP ?

I recommend not warping in the middle of the pack. Warp to the outside of it...cast your nova, and warp to the edge on the other side and repeat.

Hey, wondering if you've experimented with AoF? (http://poeurl.com/zAQlEFD ) with the Cold to Fire gem it seems pretty strong. In a world where exalts grew on trees, Emberwake + taming might be good? Just a thought. Also could scale everything through firepen.

anyawy, gonna try this build out now in 1MSC. Looks fun!

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shaazu escribió:

Hey, wondering if you've experimented with AoF? (http://poeurl.com/zAQlEFD ) with the Cold to Fire gem it seems pretty strong. In a world where exalts grew on trees, Emberwake + taming might be good? Just a thought. Also could scale everything through firepen.

anyawy, gonna try this build out now in 1MSC. Looks fun!

Hey shaazu.

First of all investing that much points on elemental damage only isn't something we want in this build, and second Cold to Fire converts around 30% of Cold damage to fire damage which keeps Cold still the dominant one so it's not realy worth it.