Cheating in general!!

tl;dr

EDIT: Ok, read.
I agree with most of these points. It might be a little too dramatic, but I don't really understand how hacks used by streamers are just going by, and nobody cares. I'm not really watching all that many PoE streams (because I prefer just to play), but if such stuff happens... cmon.

Why is this thread still up? people publicly advertising cheating and the mods think that is okay?

For someone who has been here since closed beta i have no idea why you would want to cheat, i guess you guys cheated in AoE aswell.

If you guys go back and check those stream posted in the Livestreams (http://www.pathofexile.com/news) You will see those streamer are using the maphack (aka see the full map) quite a lot.

I remember the first time I saw a poe stream and that guy join a new lv75 map and the first thing he did is to popped up the whole map and check the area...What even funnier is that this stream is recommended from the dev...I asked around how he did it and people say it is a hack and told me not to use it...

The other common one is that a custom sound when a unique drops...

Overall, I have not yet found a dev come out and say anything about those streamer who are using hacks.

Till this day, I still see a lot of people saying not to use it but a lot of streamer/player still using it without any cost (ban or whatever punishment from GGG.)

Proof? Dont want to bother much as there are too many of them out there. If you want to find proof then please go watch a few stream or some video from youtube. They are not that difficult to found. (Those people who using this maphack and custom sound thing)

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Exorcist901 escribió:

Proof? Dont want to bother much as there are too many of them out there. If you want to find proof then please go watch a few stream or some video from youtube. They are not that difficult to found. (Those people who using this maphack and custom sound thing)

This doesn't make any sense. In the first sentence you claim it's a bother, and in the second you claim it's easy.

Imagine the "bother" multiplied by "cost". It's not hard to understand why they wouldn't assign someone the task of finding these cheaters. If you find one, and it's bothers you, send the link to support. You've just helped. Come to the forum and complain about cheaters in general and you haven't.

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Shagsbeard escribió:

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Exorcist901 escribió:

Proof? Dont want to bother much as there are too many of them out there. If you want to find proof then please go watch a few stream or some video from youtube. They are not that difficult to found. (Those people who using this maphack and custom sound thing)

This doesn't make any sense. In the first sentence you claim it's a bother, and in the second you claim it's easy.

Imagine the "bother" multiplied by "cost". It's not hard to understand why they wouldn't assign someone the task of finding these cheaters. If you find one, and it's bothers you, send the link to support. You've just helped. Come to the forum and complain about cheaters in general and you haven't.

I dont understand which part you dont understand but I do think you misunderstood what I said.

All I said are

-Dont want to "bother" to spend time to do the report as there have too many stramer/youtuber using those hacks.

-If you want to find them and do the report than you can do it yourself "easily".

So I've read the main OP, and all comments thus far.

Sounds to me like the consensus amongst everyone is that yes top racers, and some of them streamers, many top players on ladder, etc are abusing the ToS without repurcussions. If this is the case then truly the only way to level the playing field is to actually take all these hacks & mods and put them into the client.

Problem solved but at what cost?

I for one do not want all those hacks & mods put into the client because the game is awesome the way it is. Anything short of that client adjustment and the playing field is not level. Which brings me to the age old saying of, "if you can't beat em join em", thus you have only 1 option if you want to be on the same field as the players at the top, join em.

makes me glad I'm not trying to be a top player on ladders OR racing. Those folks are just ruining the game for themselves by cheating.

Not really ruining the game... playing a different one. They're happy with their results. The problem is that the players playing by the rules set forth by GGG are competing with the players who aren't. When players don't get subjected to the same set of rules (I'm looking at you, Dallas Cowboys), the game loses its integrity. Loss of integrity will eventually spell out loss of profit.

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I_NO escribió:

a friend sold 4 ex's for 3 pizza boxes once.

true story

Did you report him for RMTing? Your friend or GGG, can only be one.

I play with sound off guess i will never have that unique drop sound hack!

The first person to kill atz used an auto log out script i think to not die and this was posted by GGG lol

GGG is like you can't hack but you can at the same time... punish some people but not others?
I use to play a game like this where the GMs/staff would do/give stuff to players he was friends with and it was bad.. i wish i was that friend!