[3.10] Sovyn's Lazy Pally - Tanky Templar with Max Block

Sovyn, what's your opinion on this tree:

http://poeurl.com/byMs

This is without any skills or equips, just the passive tree.

I want to like this but I'd like your input.

EDIT: This has the skills ordered in how they'd be linked together. No gear, passive tree and skills only. EDIT 2: Forgot to provide new tree link lol! http://poeurl.com/byMy
Editado por útlima vez por Hrofr#3966 en 18 sept. 2017 13:57:28
"
Olbrannon escribió:
Blade Flurry is available to templars after completing the library page quest for Siosa. Siosa sells gems but you have to bring your orbs to buy since stash isn't local. I suspect it would be for any character. (witch, templar or marauder)


Thanks for the correction.
"
Hrofr escribió:
Sovyn, what's your opinion on this tree:

http://poeurl.com/byMy


It's fine, but there is a wasted point, you take a jewel socket for 2 skill points when you past up one that costs one point near scion.

I wouldn't spend points on the 8% nodes near scion either, less than 12% average for a damage cluster isn't worth it.

Finally, it feels bad to pass the scion block nodes since you are right there. However, I'm not sure what you could drop elsewhere that wouldn't be worse.
Hey there, first i want to say greatly written guide :)
Im just trying this out with some minor changes... and i wanted to ask, how important is stone of lazwhar? I know spell block is quite a big deal, i got about 28% from reckless defense and few other things. Another boost sure sounds nice, but it would mess my resistances hard since i am already using 3 uniques (scaeva, surrenderer and romira´s). So i wanted to know your opinion on this, should i really get it?
"
Kritix escribió:
Hey there, first i want to say greatly written guide :)
Im just trying this out with some minor changes... and i wanted to ask, how important is stone of lazwhar? I know spell block is quite a big deal, i got about 28% from reckless defense and few other things. Another boost sure sounds nice, but it would mess my resistances hard since i am already using 3 uniques (scaeva, surrenderer and romira´s). So i wanted to know your opinion on this, should i really get it?


Absolutely, get it. Fix resists with jewels on your tree, you can get 50 points per jewel. See budget setup in the guide. Those jewels just have two resists each because that's all I needed, but you can get even more.
Hi Sovyn, Thank you very much for your great build. I really love it.

and now i try to apply to my Doryani's Touch non-crit in HC.(for fun) It little work right now.
PoB : >>https://pastebin.com/n1qy7Dk1<<

But i got a problem about mana cost. It not enough for spam skill bcoz Doryani's Touch use many mana cost.

Could you pls help. I will appreciate it If you have any suggestion about that.

Thank you very much for your time

Ps. Sorry for my poor language.
"
springky escribió:
Hi Sovyn, Thank you very much for your great build. I really love it.

and now i try to apply to my Doryani's Touch non-crit in HC.(for fun) It little work right now.
PoB : >>https://pastebin.com/n1qy7Dk1<<

But i got a problem about mana cost. It not enough for spam skill bcoz Doryani's Touch use many mana cost.

Could you pls help. I will appreciate it If you have any suggestion about that.

Thank you very much for your time

Ps. Sorry for my poor language.


You can solve mana issues by taking a mana leech node on the tree. These nodes leech from all damage types, not only physical. Spirit void, essence sap, etc. If not, clarity and drop herald of ash (it doesn't do that much).
Hey Sovyn, thanks for the great guide and dedication to it.

I started my first lazy pally a long time ago (when perandus crest gave 40 block chance), though I always start as duelist, just don't like the templar for some reason, hehe.

However, just wanted to write here, I just killed shaper a couple of minutes ago, so it's definitely shaper viable, specially since going duelist is usually lower damage than templar.

I did deviate a little from your tree, since I went duelist, gladiator and then brutality and Resolute Technique, but the guide is an awesome starting point, since following exactly is very efficient, specially for first characters in leagues

I also had a LOT of luck this league, got my 6-link with around 7 fuses which allowed to gather my resources and then buy a 370 pdps sword, one of the rings I'm currently using actually dropped and got like 4 exalteds in the league so far, 2 in a row two days ago

My equipment at this point is a lot more refined, but as a note, I started as champion and with Scaeva even though I was RT already.

For now I want to see if I can tackle Vinktar's Square, Perandus' Mansion, Putrid Cloister and finally a Vaal Temple map, those are the only ones remaining for me in this character.


For those curious my characters tab is set as public, but I can post equipment and tree in the thread if someone wants

Anyways, again, Sovyn, thanks for your dedication and great guide.

Editado por útlima vez por weberto#4804 en 29 sept. 2017 16:37:18
"
weberto escribió:
I just killed shaper a couple of minutes ago, so it's definitely shaper viable


Congrats! Interesting all-physical support choices. I'd be interested to hear what you think comparing that setup with the usual elemental crit inquisitor.
"
Sovyn escribió:
"
weberto escribió:
I just killed shaper a couple of minutes ago, so it's definitely shaper viable


Congrats! Interesting all-physical support choices. I'd be interested to hear what you think comparing that setup with the usual elemental crit inquisitor.


I checked the elemental setup, and your numbers on the guide, using your blade flurry formula, I got:

128,103 peak dps from blade flurry, however, we need to add crimson dance dps, since 100% of our blade flurry attacks cause bleeding and take the 120% more multiplier, which on average, I get 39,573, so my peak damage with my bleed average, sum a total of 167,676 dps (could go a bit lower, could go a bit higher), I'm using Vulnerability Curse on blasphemy, so this damage gets a further increase, but it's a bit more erratic depending on mods, enemies, bosses, etc.


All in all, I'm pretty surprised, I originally went RT just to save some currency when gearing up, not needing to worry about accuracy on items, then accuracy and crit chance on tree, etc, also I tried going pure physical since I've been trying to do a pure physical build in poe for a long time, so now that we got brutality, chance to bleed and maim, it was the perfect time for it, I wasn't expecting this much damage, though.

My take on this is, Templar Inquisitor with elemental and crit should still have higher max damage, since you get the added damage from burns and shock, plus crit multi, but I feel like it will start to get more expensive the higher you go, it also has the flexibility on switching concentrated effect, increased aoe or phys to lightning.

on the other side:

Duelist Champion with pure physical and RT can get very close on damage, and have enough to take on almost any content in the game (still haven't tried uber atziri, vaal temple, putrid cloister, perandus manor and hall of grand masters), and it should be slightly easier to gear up, so my conclusion is go with personal preference.

One thing I'm sure though, is that both variants are shaper viable, damage is similar and max block gives you a lot of extra chances on fights with so many one shots lurking around, hehe

Reportar publicación del foro

Reportar cuenta:

Tipo de reporte

Información adicional