[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Synicasm escribió:

Im a little confused here how the Infographic for Split Arrow works. It mentions "LA" in the chain, shouldn't it be SA for Split arrow ?

https://ibb.co/fmuchR

That graphic has (sadly) been incorrect for several Leagues now. It's unclear to me whether Neversink simply got the abbreviation wrong, or whether that's actually a set of links for a version of Lightning Arrow. Neversink unfortunately doesn't update this every League. (I believe he's focused more on other media these days, as well as other, non-PoE demands on his time (work, family, etc.), but it's really not my place to say what the future of the thread is going to be, or make any promises on his time).

I can't tell you what's the mathematically "correct" set of support skills to use, but I can make some suggestions.

Pierce is good, especially early on, as it'll help cut through packs more easily.
Onslaught Support can be useful early on.

Once you get to a 4L setup, I'd probably try ...

Hmm ...

Split Arrow, PPAD, and FA. Pierce remains a reasonable choice for the 4th slot. Added Cold or Added Fire could work. There are some poison support gems as well (a greater and a lesser one depending on your level), those I think are also viable with Split Arrow.

You should also at least try out Mirage Archer, I find it especially useful against bosses, though I don't use it against regular packs.

Play around with the various choices. Look at how the damage changes, but also try some field tests (tooltip DPS isn't always indicative of how something will perform). Try Chain too. I don't personally like Chain that much, but it can work well against large groupings of enemies (but less so against single targets).

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mromcy escribió:

Two quick questions:

1st: Is vaal pact still worth getting for this build?

2nd: Im Playing raider, so frenzy charges are not an issue. Is there anything better than icebite to link with herald of ice? ( right now i have HoI - Icebite - Curse on hit - Assass Mark)

No clue on Vaal Pact, sorry. I personally tend to prefer Vitality Void. But ... VP is only one point away from the main path of the build, so ... it's fairly cheap to take it and see how it goes, and then unspec if you don't like the results.

As for the Herald-Curse setup I too ponder that question.

I'm unclear if Ice Bite is helpful or not. There's also Added Cold and Hypothermia. I'm currently using Hypothermia, which ... I think ... seems to help a bit. But then ... I like seeing whole fields of enemies freeze, and then shatter. YMMV.

Anybody here trying new Abyss items? They looks really good for Tornado Shot build.

Does this build work for 3.1, despite what the OP is saying?

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_Saranghaeyo_ escribió:

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KatKira escribió:

Does this build work for 3.1, despite what the OP is saying?

Use your brain and look at how many Tornado Shot builds there are in this forum, it's flooded...

Is this build every other Tornado Shot build that has flooded the forum?

Perhaps you should take your own advice and use that brain from time to time.

Hi is there a reason i would be stuck at 16k dps on TS at lvl 68 with every item exept boots equip ??? i have every gem too :(

Hello!

Can someone explain why a lot of people are linking Ice Bite with Tornado Shot and leaving out Physical Projectile Attack Damage Support?

I can't figure out how that's better than having Ice Bit with Herald of Ice and getting the extra DPS from PPAD.

I'm also very new to the game and have hard time figuring out where all the damage gets initially calculated from in the first place. Thanks!

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KatKira escribió:

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_Saranghaeyo_ escribió:

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KatKira escribió:

Does this build work for 3.1, despite what the OP is saying?

Use your brain and look at how many Tornado Shot builds there are in this forum, it's flooded...

Is this build every other Tornado Shot build that has flooded the forum?

Perhaps you should take your own advice and use that brain from time to time.

If you take a look a the skill trees of the other current Tornado Shot builds, I have seen they are different from Neversinks. I cant say if they are better not though. Gear is different as well. Im sorry Im not the most experienced PoE player but as I said I can see the skill trees are different. I have been currently playing (updated with reset skill points) on a lvl80 char that I used with this build a while ago, who is on standard. Its seems fine and Tornado Shot is a strong skill. Unfortunately you might just have to play it and see and I recommend just even comparing skill trees to this build to see for yourself. I hope this helps, even if just a little.

Great guide. Learned a lot. TYVVM

A variant of a phys-dmg version I am currently doing in SC Abyss, using some of the new shaped/elder items available. 5,8k life, 60k TS. Have done shaper, the dps is not crazy but overall if feels pretty well balanced dmg vs defense.

Gear: