[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Metaphex escribió:

Any thoughts on the other issues with the guide that are being brought up?

-Mana issues - Guide mentions taking Spirit Void but the included trees don't have it
-Vaal Pact is taken without any leech nodes to support it

It looks like he is relying on one Mana Leech node for .4% and mentions more mana leech being an option in the Jewels section. With leech nodes they are bad until you get better damage since it's scaling.

We get .4% life leech from Blood Drinker. So far this has worked for me, but I'm not in maps yet so I would take people's opinion that are further along than me. More life leech is obtainable from jewels as well.

I would say that the issues with this build are fixable. So don't fret that the build is broken or anything.

Honestly, it feels like the guide itself is a mix of updated and un-updated sections.

If I have time, I may Path of Build it to see if something like dropping Heavy Draw for Lionseye + Soul Raker would be worth it.

I'm currently doing the 'Build 2 Ele-Eye.' The included skill tree is labeled for the Assassin but would it be the same for Deadeye? Also curious if using the Rearguard quiver is a good option for hardcore, or if the DPS from The Signal Fire is worth the defense loss.

*Forgot that Acrobatics would nullify Rearguard. I change my question to if a good rare quiver would be better for hardcore than The Signal Fire.

Quick heads-up, for the Scion build you guys better go with Ele + Raider instead of Ele + Deadeye.


Projectile pierce is quite useless with LA, and is completely useless with Barrage.
Projectile speed is meh.
Projectile damage as they travel further is pointless since you'll be in melee range with Barrage (and you should get Point Blank once stuffed)
Skills fire an additional projectile is also meh. You'll fire 1 arrow (base) + 3 (barrage) + 2 (helmet enchant) + 1 (corrupted quiver) + 1 (deadeye). Going from 7 to 8 arrows isn't a great DPS gain.

Raider will give you :
Movement speed, a decent utility stat
4% dodge, more survivability
Onslaught + frenzy charges against bosses / rares = a shit ton of DPS.

Also don't link your LA gem with phys to lightning. You should be using the signal fire quiver to get to the 100% ele conversion.

Also, one mana leech node is enough once you are 66+ and use lioneye's glare.

My tree at level 80

I'll probably remove one or two life leech nodes later. Next goal is to get my last ascendancy and to get more survivability from the ranger tree.

For those having mana issues, I would say that you should consider picking up a better bow (most likely). I used a Death's Harp that I picked up for 1c early in the league all the way up to lvl 66 and had 0 mana issues with just the one mana leech node and a 4L LA(and some 4L TS).

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ploxirion escribió:

Quick heads-up, for the Scion build you guys better go with Ele + Raider instead of Ele + Deadeye.


Projectile pierce is quite useless with LA, and is completely useless with Barrage.

The Deadeye build is for Tornado Shot, not LA

Help pls! How links use for TS with Reach of the council!?!?!?

What is CONC gem?

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foster21 escribió:

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GibHatSimulator escribió:

I took vaal pact at 67 and got my lion's eye glare. I only have a single node that has 0.4% life leech so im kind of confused as to where i'm supposed to get more leech? theres no way i can survive enough with only 0.4% and vaal pact.

Guy! I was in the exact same boat with the exact same .4% I took it around 60 I went back after an hour, that was not working out in the slightest.

I took the 2 0.4 nodes at the bottom of the tree near the 3rd frenzy charge. that seems to be enough for low maps for now however id pick up the rest of that node later

Hi all. I'm using build 1 skill 2. Ranger raider with la and barrage. I have a deaths opus 4link and bellu of the beast 5 link. Im having massive problems with bosses. Ive just setup for shaped mesa and strand and having huge problems.

Im thinking making the following changes.
1. Dropping gem for ele focus in the barrage setup. Probably lose slower proj.
2. Getting a vinktars with ele pen.
3. Getting more flat phys on jewellry
4. Going pathfinder (atziri, wise oak, vinktars, diamond)

Let me know what you think and what youve been trying for st.

Sorry but do anybody have a PoB link for this build?