[3.26] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Witch For Everyone

Would it be just awful if I used energy leech somewhere in this build, on vortex or cold snap? I need some more tankiness if I can get it

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Eunomic escribió:

Would it be just awful if I used energy leech somewhere in this build, on vortex or cold snap? I need some more tankiness if I can get it

Unfortunately, Leech requires a "hit".

Most of our damage spells employ Damage Over Time, which does not "hit".

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AndyLovesHisBge escribió:

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AndyLovesHisBge escribió:

I had originally wanted to go LL directly as recommended in the thread but now I realize it will be a long time until I can afford a 5 link Shavs.

So I decided to make the switch to CI. I have 5140 ES at level 77. This feels kind of low but I will see how it goes since I am still in white maps and I have a few pieces of gear I need to convert to ES.

Just looked at your character, you are using a similar passive tree to Shak which is not in the PoB. I'm thinking i'm really missing something!!

Are you following a PoB or just kind of doing your own thing?

This may be why I'm such a gimp :(

I am following the POB.

In the POB, make sure on the tree page you are selecting the correct tree.

Look at the very bottom on the left of the tree and you will see a drop down menu in which you can select from one of many trees. Select the one that best matches what you want to do.

My guess from your comments is that you are looking at the Low Life tree instead of the CI tree.

Let me know if this helps.

It turns out that my noobness/stupidity is way more than i thought :( i was just following the tree as it showed which is "LL Tree with 2 Clusters".. FML

I have tried to respec as much as possible back to the "Act 10" tree.

In terms of progression, after the Act 10 tree. Would it be in order;

LL Tree 0 Clusters
LL Tree with 2 Clusters
CI Tree Level 80
Final CI Tree with Cluster

So the end game build is Final CI Tree with Cluster?

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Xierg escribió:

It turns out that my noobness/stupidity is way more than i thought :( i was just following the tree as it showed which is "LL Tree with 2 Clusters".. FML

I have tried to respec as much as possible back to the "Act 10" tree.

In terms of progression, after the Act 10 tree. Would it be in order;

LL Tree 0 Clusters
LL Tree with 2 Clusters
CI Tree Level 80
Final CI Tree with Cluster

So the end game build is Final CI Tree with Cluster?

The order of progression is usually this:

CI Tree Level 80
Final CI Tree with Cluster
LL Tree 0 Clusters
LL Tree with 2 Clusters

LL is the most powerful version of the build damage wise but also the most expensive.

If you enjoy CI, you can end at Final CI Tree with Cluster

As a general note, never be upset about not knowing something, revel in learning something new instead :)

I have played this game since 2014 and I swear I rarely go a day playing with out learning something new.

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AndyLovesHisBge escribió:

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Xierg escribió:

It turns out that my noobness/stupidity is way more than i thought :( i was just following the tree as it showed which is "LL Tree with 2 Clusters".. FML

I have tried to respec as much as possible back to the "Act 10" tree.

In terms of progression, after the Act 10 tree. Would it be in order;

LL Tree 0 Clusters
LL Tree with 2 Clusters
CI Tree Level 80
Final CI Tree with Cluster

So the end game build is Final CI Tree with Cluster?

The order of progression is usually this:

CI Tree Level 80
Final CI Tree with Cluster
LL Tree 0 Clusters
LL Tree with 2 Clusters

LL is the most powerful version of the build damage wise but also the most expensive.

If you enjoy CI, you can end at Final CI Tree with Cluster

As a general note, never be upset about not knowing something, revel in learning something new instead :)

I have played this game since 2014 and I swear I rarely go a day playing with out learning something new.

Thank you so much!! This has helped me massively, i was going a little crazy trying to work out what i had done wrong, thank you :)

Looking at your character has been very helpful also. That's a good approach, I'll reflect on that a bit. Thanks again

The 8 second trigger change really feels awful to map with in my experience so far. I've been using a garbage wand that just has basic spell damage implicit with the 4 second trigger version from the unveil and the difference is night & day. With the 8 second trigger, mapping with EE feels pretty bad. 4 seconds it's perfectly fine though. But trying to get a 4 second trigger wand with other viable mods like cold dot multi or +1 spell gems is gonna be real expensive merely due to the luck involved with getting it, it's just pre rng luck that you get a veiled wand, and the wand has good mods, and then you're lucky enough to get the trigger unveil from jun on top of it. Some comparable wands I've seen like that are 10+ exalts, which isn't too bad but more than I can spend right now.

The build is fine though aside from the trigger nerf. I don't plan on staying EE once I go LL. Just want it to help offset the lower damage of the CI version. My main problem this league has been map sustain. I'm not doing anything differently than I'd normally do but I've hit this wall right around awakening level 3 where I cannot get high enough tier maps to drop in order to spawn 3 watchstone conquerors. The drop rng has been VERY frustrating so far, and I didn't want to have to resort to buying maps just yet. Eventually the flood gates will open though. I'm alching/chiseling and using fragments/scarabs as I go, getting every bonus objective I can and it's still been a struggle.

Heya,

As a matter of interest, I unveiled the trigger craft when running low level maps, so it does not appear to have an ilvl 75 requirement. Been running tier 3 and 4 maps with Jun missions and managed to get it (takes 2 unveils instead of 3 as before).

Cheers,

Hello,
I started using a level 1 CWDT elemental weakness setup and I think it did wonders to profane bloom clear speed.

My question is how good is the clear without profane bloom?

thanx..

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Karmoth666 escribió:

Dear Vortex maniacs :-)... i am on the search for an ultra tanky version of a vortex build, damage is secondary for me, i have shaks wonderful build,big ducks creeping frost version and a version from playlikejay. is there anybody out there, who could give me advice what to do if u wanna build a "vortex fortress?" i am absolutely no pro gamer, so my little goals in poe are playing high red maps and doing ultimatums.
thanks guys.....

good news for you: this build is already incredibly tanky as it is! though if you wanted to crank it up to 11, here are some tips for you.

- you could use the power of the occultist to stack defensive curses. temporal chains is already a fixture in the build but you could expand on this with enfeeble. the "Heretic's Veil" helmet provides a carefree way of applying them all at once (use enlightened to lower the reservation cost)
- stacking even more life regen, block chance as well as a "recover ES on block" mod on a shield should keep your ES topped up
- even though it was nerfed, vigilante strike + the vigil threshold jewel should still provide a reliable source of fortify to migitate all damage. alternatively you could use fortily linked to shield charge and hit the mobs with it.
- enduring cry is an easy way to generate endurance charges, but i am sure there are several other ways to get them reliably.
- a unique option for CI builds is the "Incandescent Heart" body armor that essentially reduces all elemental hits on you by 25% as long as you are immune to chaos damage.

all that being said, this build is already very good on defensives. any further investment into them could leave you with less damage, resulting in longer fights giving you more opportunities to die.

hope that helps a bit :)