[3.26] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Witch For Everyone

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Aldora_the_Summoner escribió:

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SpontaneousCombustion escribió:

I think what he may have meant to ask is: "Is there a tree for in between levelling and CI-80?".

I'm in the same boat, i don't have the gear to use CI and I finished filling out the levelling tree a while ago, so now I'm level 78ish and have 11 points unallocated (and being a noob, I have no good idea where to use them).

One option I considered was to change to the CI tree at 80, just don't take the actual CI node itself until I have enough ES.

At least that way I'll be able to see the effect of the tree's bonuses to ES and be able to see clearly when I am ready to put the final point in CI.

Ah, OK, different question :) I kinda answered that a couple of pages ago for another player. Here's what I wrote:

"Basically the change from hybrid to CI really involves respecing mostly life points and choosing ES ones instead, so if a player is not really ready to go all in on CI, just keep adding the skill points along the ES pathways to add extra defence.

It's also a good time to add some cluster or other jewels to the build."

What you don't want to do is switch up your tree to the CI version and not take the CI node. A lot of the nodes you would be respecing would be life nodes and removing them will significantly reduce your overall life/ES pool and also leave you very vulnerable to chaos damage one-shots which go straight through your ES and hit life only.

A lot of players also in this situation probably have a mix of gear too that is not always strong in ES and still has some life attributes on it. So you want to progress your gear as you move towards the CI swap over. For example, your current gloves with 50 ES and your boots with 20 ES will leave you very short for removing life nodes. You want to be planning for at least 100 ES for each of them. Similar for your body armour, you really want in excess of 400 ES there.

You can test out your current character by importing it into Path of Building and moving around some skill points. If you're not sure how to do this (and I only learned a couple of days ago), go to the Import/Export Build tab, enter your user name (not character name), hit Start, then select your character from the drop down list and click on the Passive Tree and Jewels button then the Items and Skills button then click Done. Easy :)


This will tell you where your ES will be if you did the shift which is very helpful for planning. Until you're ready to switch just allocate points along the future pathways that your change to CI will need anyway. When I did this for myself I realised I'd have about 4000 ES and nothing else. Now I'm a little over 7000 ES which needs work, but is OK for now. Got deleted by a Syndicate member last night in red maps with bad attributes. My own fault for getting cocky.

For yourself it's a case of upgrading gear, levelling up to get extra skill points and balancing between offence and defence. With a 6 link your damage should be reasonable so you could afford to drop a few offense points for defence instead.

You'll need to change the start path of your tree at some stage so if you use three points out to the right, you can reclaim 5 points from your current start path which is a net gain of 2 points.

I'm not too worried about increased area of effect, most monsters simply run at you so if you keep your Vortex between you and them they will run into the path and kill themselves anyway. So you could claim one point back to the left of Blast Radius, reclaim the two points from Elemental Focus and the two points back from the right of Lethal Assault and Resourcefulness.

So with those 7 points, take three on the wheel to Arcane Guarding, two to Arcane Focus, and the last two to Foresight. Once you've done that, respec the 4 points to Heart of Ice and use them for Arcane Swiftness instead. You'll have dropped some DPS but actually not a huge amount and you will have boosted your ES and very importantly, your block so your survivability should increase, which will help your levelling.

After that as you level up I'd try and fill in some of the upper pathway in preparation for your change to CI. Maybe work around the Unnatural Calm path for the extra ES.

You really shouldn't need a mana flask by now and would be far better served with an Amethyst flask to help reduce incoming chaos damage. Also, if you're not aware, Armourer's Scraps will increase the quality of your armour, which will increase your ES levels slightly so be sure to use those where you can. If you don't have too many then use them on the items your going to keep or at least go a while without replacing like your helmet but with Heist dropping currency like candy, you should do a couple of runs and quality everything you have.

Speaking of quality, also use Glassblower's Baubles on your flask as the quality increases their uptime.

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Shaddolf escribió:

Is "adds cold damage" ok to have on a weapon?

I know we can't have "added cold damage to SPELLS", but is simply added cold ok?

(does this add to spells or does that only add to attacks when written that way?)

edit: found out that no, it does not apply when on weapons which is great, as I just scored this beauty:

Interesting implicit too!

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SpontaneousCombustion escribió:

I think it messes up Elemental Equilibrium, there was an earlier discussion where Aldora pointed out the same problem with the wand I used to have.

Gives enemies cold resistance because you're always hitting them with cold first.

Someone more knowledgeable about the game will presumably confirm/deny.

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kingkano escribió:

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Mentosman42 escribió:

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llMrSinisterll escribió:

Hi all first thanks for the build its awesome!
Sorry for asking again it seems that my question got lost and didn't answered,
I have mana reserve problem.
Im using lvl 3 Enlighten linked to malevolence and frostbite aura.
I also have Insightfulness in the tree.
But i dont have enough mana to reserve Discipline + malevolence + frostbite.
What i am missing?

Thanks!

I asked this very early in the league and never really got an answer other than "dont use the discipline aura". Basically you NEED the mana reservation reduction nodes(even with enlighten 4) the LL tree has to be able to run everything. It is possible to modify the CI tree to grab those nodes as well but I dont know if that is optimal. Technically with enlighten 3 or 4 you could probably only take a couple of the reduction nodes but it probably makes the most sense to take all of them and forget enlighten like the LL build does(which can run discipline + malevolence + frostbite on mana reserve)

I could be reading it wrong, but doesn't the LL version actually use malevolence with blood magic, meaning it reserves life not mana? This is how the LL version runs all of them I think?

The Discipline thing threw me at first too, as I really wanted to run it for the ES boost, and I don't honestly find Vaal Discipline that useful? But maybe I don't understand well enough how to use it. (admission: I'm a casual player)

Also, thanks for the build OP, have really enjoyed playing it so far.

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Melnevacor escribió:

Is Efficacy bugged? It doesn't show Vortex tooltip dmg increase and doesn't even highlight gem when moused over. Support letter doesn't show on skill icon too.