1.1M SHAPER DPS, 140% MS, 7K LIFE CYCLONE SLAYER! SHAPER + GUARDIANS DEATHLESS!

A few key notes
Can reach upwards of 140% movement speed with just onslaught and an adrenaline quicksilver flask

Has 1.1M DPS(Can reach higher, can go lower on a lower budget)

Not THE most expensive cyclone build out there, but if you're looking for a budget option, go Ngamahu's instead. It has lower DPS, but is equally fast, and equally good for mapping, excluding bosses)

Pretty much cannot die unless you try, excluding shaper and friends, and Uber atziri, making it extremely easy to level for even the most braindead, one-click player out there

No pesky auras in case you DO die

Cyclone allows you to phase through things, and allows you to move while doing damage

Never dies to phys reflect mobs(However, don't run phys reflect maps)

Can run every map mod except phys reflect comfortably

Blood magic, so mana is never an issue, but this can be changed if you'd rather have a little bit of extra damage, and a little less life for auras. Because of starforge and brutality, the options are very limited though, hence why I chose not to. If you do choose to go for a non-blood magic version, Haste and blasphemy assassins mark is probably your best bet. There may be other options I have not considered, so feel free to experiment with this idea

I have completed shaper, as well as his four guardians deathless multiple times, but I have also died multiple times, as I am not particularly good at either of these fights. A better player would undoubtedly handle these situations a million times better than me

With all that out of the way, let's talk about the build
It's a fast paced, simple build with a ton of damage, even for bosses. This was my goal when making this build, and it has succeeded past my expectations. With nearly 2k 'regen'(Whenever you leech up, this is essentialy how much you gain per second with enough damage and life), your HP will nearly ping-pong from bottom to full like vaal pact, without the drawback of VP.

90% area of effect with 5+ to weapon range(4+ if your cyclone is not level 21). This translates to a rather massive area coverage, and even with conc. effect, you can clear comfortably, though I'd still recommend inc. AoE as the difference is noticable

Pros
High damage
High clear
Fast
Won't die to reflect mobs
No vaal pact
No auras to pay attention to
High survivability

Cons
Not cheap. Budget option is worse than Ngamahu's
No vaal pact
Less regen maps makes the leech feel a lot worse
Can't run phys reflect and no leech maps


Gear


With all the gear covered, the playstyle of the build comes next. Spam flasks whenever you see a pack, steamroll through them and continue moving while the flasks still last. Don't use them before seeing a pack, as you will run out. For bosses, be mindful of heavy hits that can oneshot(Especially in harder rolled maps). You are extremely durable, but not immortal, so things that look dangerous, probably are. Bosses usually drop in a few seconds at best, though occasionaly might last longer, so again, be at least a little mindful of exactly what you do, and don't leap slam into palace Dominus' touch of god like I have

Passive tree
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/3.0.0/AAAABAQBANlh7g6FUsAaAdx0oBuqhrONfdRShO85DmhlLOkwfDfU73o1kgYg_o9fOW87ZU2bLedU2XyCB21seHp34yaVo4qYbxa_BbUFLfVhhaf464rw7w6ygF8_idPcvVBHYxdNklFHFCDfvyef2L1674w2qW507SP2D6t2rA481347tr6n2sEVIMv1R37BB3BS6NaGtIE6xIKSfRm0vTbtP89-LlPgw6U1LYO1SKknVUvBBHlosKsxsLXy208lvITZ5c9h4vJa5w-plORR028X3AmWFHF4DdQjJP3ndIdq6wnqGAairY3_3gxw9qPz3RDwl3n3Mo2_3CM=

For higher levels than 93, finish the scion life cluster. If you still have points to spare, the life nodes at the start of the marauder pathing are also options to consider.

For the more damage oriented variant
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/3.0.0/AAAABAQBANlhQKDcI14Tjb-FUsAaB3V0oPcyG6qNfdRSl3k5DmhlLOllTfPdNZIGIPajXzkFLYnTmy1jF02SwKZtbHh6IVUmlaOKmG_qGOsJh2r1Yed0eu-K8KlusoBfP-dU3L3cPXTt7w4Uce4O378JllFHF9yMNtNvUEcj9oa0dqwOPKmUO7a-p9rBFSDnD0d-vTZh4ujWMHyBOsSC5c8ZtITZ-OvPfuDDLlOlNS2DtfKpJ7CrwQR5aFVLMbC1SNtPJbxwUm878lrXfpJ95FHBByefy_UPq3gN1CMk_YWn2L0FtRQgBqKtjf_eDHAWv3fjEPDveoTvhrMB3A==

Pantheon
Use Soul of Arakalii with 'Captured herald of thunder'. Blood rage + CWDT Immortal call will procc this consistently, and will give you a ton of regen bonus for 4 seconds, which does work with leech

Soul of Yugul is the minor pantheon, as it reduces reflected damage taken. Without this, you will likely kill yourself to reflect, so this is not optional


Skill gems

Cyclone:


If you have a 6th link,


Ancestral protector:

Fourth link is whatever you prefer. I went with faster attacks, as it helps procc bleeding more consistently to utilize bloodlust






Again, fourth link is more up to you. I personally use enhance to boost bloodrage, but you can fit in vaal haste or vaal lightning trap here without it being a wrong choice


I will say that there are potential room for improvements, and this might not be the final product that a build like this can be, but I personally don't feel it's needed, and that this will be MY final take on the build, at the very least. I will also answer questions that are sent in PM's, as I might not check this thread, but the notifications of messages will follow me around on the forums, making them much easier to spot

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RainbroDasher escribió:

Not THE most expensive cyclone build out there, but if you're looking for a budget option, go Ngamahu's instead. It has lower DPS, but is equally fast, and equally good for mapping, excluding bosses)

i'm at 2.5m shaper dps with ngamahus, so that is far from correct

Yeah I thought the reason why people play Ngamahu Cyclone is because of the insane single target damage compared to other cyclone builds? Mapping looks a little weird though, because your cyclone isn't the thing that kills enemies and you have to wait for the meatballs to land.

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zuckerjoe escribió:

Yeah I thought the reason why people play Ngamahu Cyclone is because of the insane single target damage compared to other cyclone builds? Mapping looks a little weird though, because your cyclone isn't the thing that kills enemies and you have to wait for the meatballs to land.

i can run cyclone with increased aoe and fortify and it will still oneshot everything in t15

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Kitaen escribió:

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RainbroDasher escribió:

Not THE most expensive cyclone build out there, but if you're looking for a budget option, go Ngamahu's instead. It has lower DPS, but is equally fast, and equally good for mapping, excluding bosses)

i'm at 2.5m shaper dps with ngamahus, so that is far from correct

People fail to take into account that less than half the balls will hit, and they won't always procc. I've ran Ngamahu's and the damage is really inconsistent, which was my issue with it. Sometimes you'd get balls 4 times in one second, and other times go completely starved. That RNG barrier was what steered me clear of it, due to lack of consistency. On a 5L with Ngamahu's and fortify, I can reach 1M DPS all things included, but this is only if all balls actually hit, which they rarely, if ever do

The damage calculation of molten burst will always be inconsistent due to hit rate and procc rate. You'd have to halve the damage to get a reliable amount due to the fluxuation. On shaper, despite the builds having similar damage output, Ngamahu's was a lot slower because of the issues mentioned previously. Ngamahu's is by no means weak, but the constant RNG is again what made it a deal breaker for me, when this build has pretty much 100% uptime on the DPS stated without any compromises.

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RainbroDasher escribió:

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Kitaen escribió:

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RainbroDasher escribió:

Not THE most expensive cyclone build out there, but if you're looking for a budget option, go Ngamahu's instead. It has lower DPS, but is equally fast, and equally good for mapping, excluding bosses)

i'm at 2.5m shaper dps with ngamahus, so that is far from correct

People fail to take into account that less than half the balls will hit, and they won't always procc. I've ran Ngamahu's and the damage is really inconsistent, which was my issue with it. Sometimes you'd get balls 4 times in one second, and other times go completely starved. That RNG barrier was what steered me clear of it, due to lack of consistency. On a 5L with Ngamahu's and fortify, I can reach 1M DPS all things included, but this is only if all balls actually hit, which they rarely, if ever do

The damage calculation of molten burst will always be inconsistent due to hit rate and procc rate. You'd have to halve the damage to get a reliable amount due to the fluxuation. On shaper, despite the builds having similar damage output, Ngamahu's was a lot slower because of the issues mentioned previously. Ngamahu's is by no means weak, but the constant RNG is again what made it a deal breaker for me, when this build has pretty much 100% uptime on the DPS stated without any compromises.

that is false information, the procc rate is super consistent with 20% procc chance and 7 to 8 attacks per second

they will all hit the shaper, there is no RNG involved at all. the dps is calculated with "rng" thats why it is called dps and not maximum possible damage. your ngamahus shaper clear might have been a lot slower because ngamahus has a gigantic metric ton of scaling on a lot of things. but since you don't even use a 6 link warchief (which is half of your dmg on a starforge build) i can only assume that you are not very keen on min maxing.

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that is false information, the procc rate is super consistent with 20% procc chance and 7 to 8 attacks per second

they will all hit the shaper, there is no RNG involved at all. the dps is calculated with "rng" thats why it is called dps and not maximum possible damage. your ngamahus shaper clear might have been a lot slower because ngamahus has a gigantic metric ton of scaling on a lot of things. but since you don't even use a 6 link warchief (which is half of your dmg on a starforge build) i can only assume that you are not very keen on min maxing.

The reason I don't use a 6L is because 1M DPS is plenty, and having 7K life is more important to me at this point than having a little extra damage. I do have an ancestral protector(This buffs my damage more than a warchief would, so there's some loss in terms of damage there). It's all about opportunity cost, and I won't trade away 1.3K life for a 6L, as that is a trade off, and not a direct upgrade. In terms of damage, nothing survives particularly long, and I evaluate survivability as more worthwhile than two additional links on a warchief totem. Do keep in mind that if I do go for a 6L Warchief, I lose damage on cyclone because I no longer use maim, or if I do, the AW is not particularly much stronger than my current 4L setup with Ancestral protector. And yes, Ancestral protector does do damage, so we're not talking anywhere near double the damage from AW.

Finally, I would love to see the path of building setup for your 2.5M DPS(On shaper, mind you, not on some random white mob which has no curse reduction effectiveness)

Edit: I checked out the page. On shaper, you won't have frenzy charges or onslaught(Because there's nowhere to get them from, so), so an attack rate of 5.7 on average(Minus the 91% hit chance, so 9% will miss, or about 5.13). At around 20% chance to procc, that means one in every 5 hits on average is going to hit, or once per second. That brings the total average DPS of the build to 700K(350K if all balls hit, 350-370K on cyclone itself). Of course, this fluxuates heavily, and you can get anywhere from 1 to 5 proccs in a single second, based on luck alone. The same goes for crit though. I can completely steamroll a boss because of a huge lucky crit streak, or do far less damage if no crits appear at all. The average is 1.1M DPS though, whereas the Ngamahu's with a legitimate setup on shaper or his merry friends is 700K(On a 5 off colour chest no less)

I should add that there's also 1k life less on your build

On a seperate note, no, all the balls will not hit unless you are directly on top of shaper, and if you are that during the beam(The time where you can dish out the most damage), it will hit you will have to either entirely stop damaging or reposition to a lower damage output. The balls spread out, they don't home in. It's a sprinkler effect, and they have practically no area coverage due to conc. effect, meaning they have to hit more or less pinpoint accurate

Hi, Im thinking about making this build. I made a cyclone phys juggernaut this season but I found it to be under performing when I got to guardians. I always wanted to try a slayer for higher damage output compared to my jug cyclone and the leech.

I saw your build and I thought it looked really good. I like the use of blood magic high life pool and high shaper dps without having to use curses etc.

I have a few questions.
Can you post a path of building link of your gear?

I had a look at your tree and compared it to a few others slayer cyclone trees. One of the main things I noticed was that most other slayer cyclones use haematophagy and or vitality void. How do you find the leech without this?

Which bandits do you take?


Is the belt of the deceiver 30% reduced damage from critical strikes really important?
At the moment I'm planning the build on pob and am trying to decide between two setups.
setup 1 is tombstone one socket with a murderour eye jewel for intimidae + a stygian vise.
(with this setup I am under capped on fire res so will need to buy a new amulet but will have roughly 7200hp.

The second option uses rare gloves with 15 attack speed 60 resistance and belt of the deciever for the intimidate. This option I have 30k less shaper dps and 6900 hp but gain the 30% reduced damage from crit strikes. I will also be short on cold res so will need to buy a new amulet with that.



I have never played slayer class so far so don't have a strong understanding of the mechanics.

Ok this is mybe just me but could you sugets alternative for gloves i have int from my amulet and some alternatives for rings something that would boost dmg and be honest and imagine you would have 500 spare exalted orbs to spend on all this. Will be waiting for answer